. >> so, conservative legal giant bourke appeared on "firing line" several times, his seminal book, the antitrust paradox was recently rereleased with a no introduction written by senator lee. the gop senator from missouri has aligned himself firmly with the brand that take the opposite view when it comes to the antitrust debate. you, senator, seem to be in the middle of them. that is a wild place to be. what are your guiding principals for how you approach antitrust. >> i have to tell you the first person that interviewed me that gets this, holly lee. >> it is crazy. [ laughter ] >> i know. thank you for bringing it up. let me start with mike lee. he and i are good friends. i was so glad he joined me on this app store. we did the whole thing together. went after apple and they would not give us a witness. questioning google why someone called to intimidate, get this, match.com the day before the hearing to clearly try to get them not to testify. so, we have disagreements on a few major issues. one of them is that i think he has great damage to the standard of antitrust. once again it i