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bove is focused on pecker's non-prosecution deal. he wants the jury to think that pecker is basically marching to alvin bragg's orders because pecker doesn't want to go to jail himself. so that's also why he told the jury that trump thanked -- that trump had thanked mr. pecker a few days before the inauguration even though mr. pecker earlier told the fbi that trump had not thanked him. so chris, for an effective cross examination, mr. bove doesn't need a perry mason moment where pecker breaks down on the stand. all he has to do is kind of chip away at mr. pecker's testimony, and i think he's done a decent job of that. >> yeah, there are points at which, again, reporting from inside, they talk about the way bove was approaching this, the description of david pecker is that he's a smaller man, fairly slight, that he has a kind of a soft demeanor, which belies, right, the jobs that he actually did, but that's the way he's coming across on the stand, and at one point, bove got pretty pointed and raised his voice a little bit. are you ver
bove is focused on pecker's non-prosecution deal. he wants the jury to think that pecker is basically marching to alvin bragg's orders because pecker doesn't want to go to jail himself. so that's also why he told the jury that trump thanked -- that trump had thanked mr. pecker a few days before the inauguration even though mr. pecker earlier told the fbi that trump had not thanked him. so chris, for an effective cross examination, mr. bove doesn't need a perry mason moment where pecker breaks...
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bove you paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to kill those stories. pecker, yes. what was the average of those payments? pecker, the largest was $20,000, the others were up to $2,000. just the doorman got $30,000. it's different degrees. >> totally different degrees. you're looking at this giant six-figure payments to macdougal and to daniels. it's a totally different ball game. >> also, he didn't admit to campaign finance violations although he might have committed state crimes in the arnold schwarzenegger case. >> the reason that david pecker said he was even sensitive to the campaign finance angle of paying mcdougal in the first place, which is what caused him to lord it up with services, he was sensitive about that because as a function of what he had done for arnold schwarzenegger, he had caught the attention of regulators and investigators, and he narrowly escaped. he knew that was a problem. he tried to structure the karen mcdougal payout agreement in a way that would evade campaign finance problems. the only issue is as josh steinglass expertly elicited fr
bove you paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to kill those stories. pecker, yes. what was the average of those payments? pecker, the largest was $20,000, the others were up to $2,000. just the doorman got $30,000. it's different degrees. >> totally different degrees. you're looking at this giant six-figure payments to macdougal and to daniels. it's a totally different ball game. >> also, he didn't admit to campaign finance violations although he might have committed state crimes...
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and bove says that's right again. you were pointing out, it seems very clear here that they're trying to make michael cohen out to be someone who's not as desirable as a business partner as it seems michael cohen would attempt to paint himself in terms of his relationship with donald trump. and, again, that may go to poking holes in the upcoming testimony that's expected to come when michael cohen is called to the witness stand. >> ana. >> rehema ellis, thank you for the update. please keep us posted. jessica, it sure seems like the defense is determined to damage whatever cohen could potentially say and to try to damage the credibility of cohen. he's somebody whose credibility is already very damaged, right? so what does that tell you about how worried they are perhaps about what cohen is going to testify about? >> well, this is what we would expect, which is the prosecution is trying to corroborate michael cohen and shore up his credibility in advance through the testimony of david pecker, and now the defense are tr
and bove says that's right again. you were pointing out, it seems very clear here that they're trying to make michael cohen out to be someone who's not as desirable as a business partner as it seems michael cohen would attempt to paint himself in terms of his relationship with donald trump. and, again, that may go to poking holes in the upcoming testimony that's expected to come when michael cohen is called to the witness stand. >> ana. >> rehema ellis, thank you for the update....
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bove, and the witness, mr. packer, are some jurors seated closer to the gallery or occasionally looking out into the gallery at the reporters. jamie, again, just to follow up on my gym said, the reality is david pecker is getting immunity and that's going to come out as an incentive. i would say just going back to direct today, i was looking through all of our slack channel for every that was said. that's that's what we're putting on tv. the number of times david pecker was asked and answered that this had to do with the campaign. if you just go through the trans quite a bit, right? >> over and over and over again. >> he says, if he didn't want to do it because it would embarrass mr. trump or embarrass or hurt the campaign. >> the campaign, the campaign, the campaign, which is different i guess, than saying yes, we did this with i'm just going to name a dead actor, so i don't get in trouble. tyrone power, we hit, we hit all of that tyrone powers dirt just to help him because we had a good relationship with him
bove, and the witness, mr. packer, are some jurors seated closer to the gallery or occasionally looking out into the gallery at the reporters. jamie, again, just to follow up on my gym said, the reality is david pecker is getting immunity and that's going to come out as an incentive. i would say just going back to direct today, i was looking through all of our slack channel for every that was said. that's that's what we're putting on tv. the number of times david pecker was asked and answered...
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bove, that's almost 17 years prior to the 2015 meeting. pecker, yes. bove, 17 years of giving president trump a heads up to stories long before 2015 because that was good for business. pecker, yes. bove, president trump was giving you content to run in the national enquirer, correct? pecker, yes. and bove, also tried to put a little distance between trump's lawyer and fixer, michael cohen, and the trump campaign. again, whether or not this was all done to benefit the campaign is at least one of the cruxes of the matter here. again, this from an nbc reporter's courtroom notes today. bove, cohen was mr. trump's personal lawyer and that was his only job? pecker, correct. bove, between 2015 and 2016 cohen was always clear he wasn't working for his campaign, he was his personal attorney. pecker, yes. that's in addition to trump's defense attorney trying to make it seem to the jury that pecker has a faulty memory, implying he had his facts fed to him by prosecutors suggesting he might have lied under oath at one point when he didn't mention multiple times ho
bove, that's almost 17 years prior to the 2015 meeting. pecker, yes. bove, 17 years of giving president trump a heads up to stories long before 2015 because that was good for business. pecker, yes. bove, president trump was giving you content to run in the national enquirer, correct? pecker, yes. and bove, also tried to put a little distance between trump's lawyer and fixer, michael cohen, and the trump campaign. again, whether or not this was all done to benefit the campaign is at least one of...
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surprising to see emil bove get up and do some of the cross examination. i don't think it was surprising to see susan necheles get up either. the one thing i did take away from this week was how todd's presence and the mud that todd went before the judge and at the lectern was reduced as the week went on. i wonder if that is, well, so, if you think about the timing, it was after heated opening statements. there were objections sustained during his opening statement, that wasn't a great look in front of trump. when he was trying to defend the indefensible because trump quite clearly appears to have violated the gag order, when he got bench slapped by judge juan merchan in the contempt hearing. since then, todd blanche has taken a backseat. i wonder if part of that is because he wants to reduce the visibility that he has in front of the judge and continually losing things in front of the judge in front of trump because trump and todd have this close relationship. if you see them in the southern district of florida, in the documents case, they are always laug
surprising to see emil bove get up and do some of the cross examination. i don't think it was surprising to see susan necheles get up either. the one thing i did take away from this week was how todd's presence and the mud that todd went before the judge and at the lectern was reduced as the week went on. i wonder if that is, well, so, if you think about the timing, it was after heated opening statements. there were objections sustained during his opening statement, that wasn't a great look in...
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and emil bove try to put distance between michael cohen and the trump campaign.e of the crux of the matter here . again, this is from nbc reporters courtroom notes today. emil bove, "michael cohen was mr. trump's personal lawyer and that was his only job?" "correct." "between 2015 and 2016 michael cohen was clear he was the personal attorney." "tran33, yes." that is in addition to making it seem david pecker had his facts spoonfed to them by prosecutors, suggesting he might have lied under oath at one point to have behind prosecutors when he didn't mention multiple times that hope hicks, trumps staff hope hicks was present at at least one key meeting. this again is the defense on cross examination. the defense will get to resume the cross-examination of david pecker tomorrow morning when court reconvenes at 9:30 a.m. . the revelations from david pecker on direct examination feel so understandable and straightforward and sort of right to the point in terms of what that case is. i understand the defense is trying to muddy up this case but i can't quite tell they ar
and emil bove try to put distance between michael cohen and the trump campaign.e of the crux of the matter here . again, this is from nbc reporters courtroom notes today. emil bove, "michael cohen was mr. trump's personal lawyer and that was his only job?" "correct." "between 2015 and 2016 michael cohen was clear he was the personal attorney." "tran33, yes." that is in addition to making it seem david pecker had his facts spoonfed to them by prosecutors,...
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it's the only one pecker said bove did have.admit, though, that trump never brought up buying any of these stories in their meeting together. but pecker responded, saying that he did agree to serve as the eyes and ears of the trump campaign. bove also sought to poke holes in pecker's credibility by getting him to acknowledge that the 72 year old had mixed up some dates, and some of his statements to federal prosecutors in 2018 were inconsistent with his testimony. this week, pecker said, quote, i've been truthful to the best of my recollection. also on the stand today was rhona graff, trump's longtime executive assistant. graff testified that the trump organization had stormy daniels and karen mcdougal's phone numbers in a database. daniels and mcdougal claim that they had an affair with trump. graff says she also vaguely remembers seeing daniels at trump tower. >> it's very cold in there. for one purpose. i believe they don't seem to be able to get the temperature up. it shouldn't be that complicated. >> financial executive gar
it's the only one pecker said bove did have.admit, though, that trump never brought up buying any of these stories in their meeting together. but pecker responded, saying that he did agree to serve as the eyes and ears of the trump campaign. bove also sought to poke holes in pecker's credibility by getting him to acknowledge that the 72 year old had mixed up some dates, and some of his statements to federal prosecutors in 2018 were inconsistent with his testimony. this week, pecker said, quote,...
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his impatience increased as discussions continued but he definitely prefers bove to blanche.n observation. does that happen? you try to avoid it, maybe, but the fact is that the way they act, they way they present themselves, and their knowledge, what their arguments are can influence you? >> that's true. and i like the way you started this piece with judges are human. that's true. and it's also true that you get more bees with honey than vinegar and lawyers should take that to note. >> so restrategize, if you see that something you're doing is pushing the judge in the wrong direction, don't keep doing it over and over again. >> yes and no. there are some lawyers who don't follow that rule. they will bait you. they want to be the person who gets in your face and makes you crazy. they think they win that way. >> with the jury? >> i think sometimes they think that. i speak to jurors. i've had, you know, a myriad of cases, hundreds of jurors i have spoken to over the years, and they do not care for that. they do respect the process. they are part of the process. they take their
his impatience increased as discussions continued but he definitely prefers bove to blanche.n observation. does that happen? you try to avoid it, maybe, but the fact is that the way they act, they way they present themselves, and their knowledge, what their arguments are can influence you? >> that's true. and i like the way you started this piece with judges are human. that's true. and it's also true that you get more bees with honey than vinegar and lawyers should take that to note....
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. >> bove doing a great job of bringing out facts that undermine. >> confirm that trump and cohen did pay story former door man at trump power tower. >> laura: well, got to interrupt when you don't want where it's going. they are getting nervous. the lawfare being waged against trump seems to be totally back firing. and so disappointed common tartsd who kind of bet the farm on this, are just left sputtering. even and this was really great this morning. offering nasty jabs after trump's sweet birthday greetings to melania. >> what they want to point out wish his wife a happy birthday wished he could be with her. she could be there. >> she could. >> any number of his family members could be there at this trial at any point. they have all chosen not to be at this trial. >> laura: they have chosen not to be -- really, john, really? that's -- that's as good as you can do? it's bad enough for trump to waste his time in a sham proceeding, why on earth would he want to punish his family, punish his wife on her birthday? oh, come sit at the trial. happy birthday. how ridiculous. all day long m
. >> bove doing a great job of bringing out facts that undermine. >> confirm that trump and cohen did pay story former door man at trump power tower. >> laura: well, got to interrupt when you don't want where it's going. they are getting nervous. the lawfare being waged against trump seems to be totally back firing. and so disappointed common tartsd who kind of bet the farm on this, are just left sputtering. even and this was really great this morning. offering nasty jabs...
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bove, she wanted to promote her name and brand, correct? yes. she, karen mcdougal was illegitimate celebrity at that time, right? pecker, let me say this. did she meet the celebrity category at that time? no. there were reportedly audible chuckles in the courtroom after that happened. it was not what you would call a highlight moment for the defense. in fact, to be honest from my perspective almost none of it so far has seen all that great for donald trump. maybe you don't need a compelling narrative when the job is to get jurors to believe in reasonable doubt or maybe this is what is happening when you work with an impossible client and do a better job. what does a competent defense strategy look like in this trial? is it turns out, joining me now is andrew wiseman, and anna bello, a pleasure to have you both onset. first of all, i am totally honest about all of this. i will just say, andrew, from what i have seen, i think anybody who is even casually watching this understands the story the prosecution is trying to tell. it seems like a scatter
bove, she wanted to promote her name and brand, correct? yes. she, karen mcdougal was illegitimate celebrity at that time, right? pecker, let me say this. did she meet the celebrity category at that time? no. there were reportedly audible chuckles in the courtroom after that happened. it was not what you would call a highlight moment for the defense. in fact, to be honest from my perspective almost none of it so far has seen all that great for donald trump. maybe you don't need a compelling...
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cross examination has just resumed with david pecker, trump's attorney bove asking about that testifyeting with the fbi, where he said one thing about whether donald trump had ever thanked him for the mcdougal money, or not. there appears to be some contradiction in that and that's what bove, trump's attorney, is starting to focus in on with david pecker. while trump has slammed this case as election interference, veteran republican campaign strategist stewart stevens says being stuck in court could be exactly what trump needed. he writes in "the new york times," quote, trial will afford mr. trump the opportunity to define the essence of his candidacy, i am a victim. joining us now, brendan buck, former press secretary to boehner and ryan, also an msnbc political analyst, and symone sanders townsend, co-host of the weekend here on msnbc. i'm looking forward to that show. she also previously served as chief spokesperson for vice president harris. this trial is already changing how trump is forced to campaign. he stopped to greet construction workers outside the new jpmorgan building ye
cross examination has just resumed with david pecker, trump's attorney bove asking about that testifyeting with the fbi, where he said one thing about whether donald trump had ever thanked him for the mcdougal money, or not. there appears to be some contradiction in that and that's what bove, trump's attorney, is starting to focus in on with david pecker. while trump has slammed this case as election interference, veteran republican campaign strategist stewart stevens says being stuck in court...
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i would have to reread the stories to answer that question. >> emil bove then continues down this line of questioning, asking david pecker, the witness. it was standard operating procedure for the national enquirer or two sort of recycled content from other publications and frame it's slightly differently correct? correct. that's cost-effective. correct. >> information from the public domain goes into the national enquirer. it's quick and easy, correct? yes. good for business? yes. >> beauvais then asks, there was already negative information in the public domain about ben carson. and so you ran it in the national enquirer, right? yes. and because that was quick and efficient and cost-effective, you would have done that whether or not you had discussed it with president trump, correct? >> yes. >> wolf very interesting testimony, indeed. thanks for bringing that to our attention. i'm glad you're going through that whole transcript now. very important indeed, let's get to him, alice this and what's going on? i'm lead counsel for special counsel, robert mueller's investigation of donald t
i would have to reread the stories to answer that question. >> emil bove then continues down this line of questioning, asking david pecker, the witness. it was standard operating procedure for the national enquirer or two sort of recycled content from other publications and frame it's slightly differently correct? correct. that's cost-effective. correct. >> information from the public domain goes into the national enquirer. it's quick and easy, correct? yes. good for business? yes....
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he is on cross right now with emil bove, and it looks like bove is trying to get him to say what he was enquirer's" business, to try to say that this was not necessarily about helping donald trump but helping out the "national enquirer." >> i think it can be two things at one time, right, there can be a motive for the campaign, for the electoral motive. it might have also helped the "national enquirer," but those two things can both be true, but and. >> how do you read today's testimony? do you think it's devastating for donald trump or do you think there are openings for the defense. >> i think it's not going well for donald trump. i think it's going quickly. this trial is moving along at a brisk pace, more quickly than anybody expected and this is a key part, the key part is why did you make these payments. one of really two or three key parts, and that's it. >> one of the things that we're just, again, getting from him is they asked about sales, and sales on news stands accounted for 70% of their profits. 70% of the money that came into the "national enquirer" was because people pick
he is on cross right now with emil bove, and it looks like bove is trying to get him to say what he was enquirer's" business, to try to say that this was not necessarily about helping donald trump but helping out the "national enquirer." >> i think it can be two things at one time, right, there can be a motive for the campaign, for the electoral motive. it might have also helped the "national enquirer," but those two things can both be true, but and. >> how...
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here's the exchange between pecker and trump's attorney emil bove vey beauvais said, so if this story was true, the doorman's story, you were going to run it, correct? pecker says yes because you had a fiduciary obligation patient to do that, right. says beauvais pecker says that is correct, but they said it would have made business sense to put it mildly to run such an article if it was true, correct. twitch, pecker replied, yes. now, we should point out in testimony earlier this week, pecker did testify under oath that if he ran the story, it would have been after the election which makes the argument that this was to protect trump going into the election. but as soon as the election was over, pecker would have run that doorman's story because it would have been in his words, extremely popular or not his exact words. but he said it would've been extremely popular among the national enquirer for audience back with the panel joining us as well as barry levine, former executive editor of the national enquirer. barry, i'm wondering, you know, david pecker, obviously. well, you worked wi
here's the exchange between pecker and trump's attorney emil bove vey beauvais said, so if this story was true, the doorman's story, you were going to run it, correct? pecker says yes because you had a fiduciary obligation patient to do that, right. says beauvais pecker says that is correct, but they said it would have made business sense to put it mildly to run such an article if it was true, correct. twitch, pecker replied, yes. now, we should point out in testimony earlier this week, pecker...
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year ago was a year to a day a partner that is to say bud light with transgender influencer dylan bove then when the unit the try to bring more people into the a lot of people left to do so hello the partnership and will you guys can take up as well toxic to marketing expert he said you know, the seed may have been getting into the first place, but another mistake was pulling out of it and then kind abandoning it and now everybody's mad at them listen. >> was he did a partnership, if they had stuck with it and if they had said cuomo we will support everybody if you like bye-bye, we like you only embrace that well they then could've used that to get of the people just cannot the brand. jeff: basically weighed about it but is poorly is a good although and only north america take a look into the numbers from their annual report in terms of the rest of the world south america sales of almost 30 percent europe middle east and africa, when vision percent in a shake us up as well. and out of north america, the biggest market is down about 15 percent overall on the year. stusometimes you just
year ago was a year to a day a partner that is to say bud light with transgender influencer dylan bove then when the unit the try to bring more people into the a lot of people left to do so hello the partnership and will you guys can take up as well toxic to marketing expert he said you know, the seed may have been getting into the first place, but another mistake was pulling out of it and then kind abandoning it and now everybody's mad at them listen. >> was he did a partnership, if they...
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emile bovee questioned the testimony from yesterday where packer testified trump thanked him for suppressing a false story from a trump tower doorman. be reminded that he told the fbi in 2018 that trump never expressed any attitude to american media. pecker said today he does not recall that fbi testimony. trump's lawyers also exposed that business deals may have served as a motivation for pecker to enter a nonprosecution agreement with the southern district of new york for campaign finance violations. pecker testified many of the negative stories he published about trump's opponents already existed in the public domain. he said running negative stories particularly about former president bill clinton and former secretary of state lloyd clinton was good for his business. court started this morning with trump's attorneys clarifying that questions about hick's presence at a trump tower meeting in 2015, pecker said she was in and out of that meeting and her presence is important because it would show a level of campaign involvement in those talks. now just before lunch pecker also spoke about h
emile bovee questioned the testimony from yesterday where packer testified trump thanked him for suppressing a false story from a trump tower doorman. be reminded that he told the fbi in 2018 that trump never expressed any attitude to american media. pecker said today he does not recall that fbi testimony. trump's lawyers also exposed that business deals may have served as a motivation for pecker to enter a nonprosecution agreement with the southern district of new york for campaign finance...
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you will see him nodding after todd blanche or emile bovee whispered something to him and he would askquestion. you can see that once in a while. the interesting thing with his interaction with the jury, which is a little bit different from when he was rebuked by the judge during jury selection for making a comment about a juror and the judge got really irritated with him the first week of the trial and basically told his lawyer, tell your client he cannot do that anymore. now, he does not have that kind of interaction with the jury and does not say anything to them. when they come in and out in the morning and after lunch and sometimes the third or fourth time, they pass within three feet of him as they exit the courtroom and he has -- he is required to stand when the jury comes in and leaves. now, this is a very interesting small democratic moment, where a former president of the united states, who says he wants to be a dictator for a day, he has to stand in honor of 18 jurors, 18 citizens. and they file past him as if they are soldiers, silent soldiers on their way to do their duty.
you will see him nodding after todd blanche or emile bovee whispered something to him and he would askquestion. you can see that once in a while. the interesting thing with his interaction with the jury, which is a little bit different from when he was rebuked by the judge during jury selection for making a comment about a juror and the judge got really irritated with him the first week of the trial and basically told his lawyer, tell your client he cannot do that anymore. now, he does not have...
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bovee says there will be a recross and also todd blanche, john, just ask for the judge to compel the prosecution to provide them with the name of the next witness. this has become a thing that they are not letting them know that, john. >> john: you know, it's only fair for the defense to know who they are about to bring up on stand so they can prepare themselves. let's bring in fox news sunday anchor and chief legal correspondent, you have a unique perspective because you were inside the courthouse. you got a sense of the overall atmosphere of this trial. let's listen for a second to what donald trump said on his way into court this morning. >> it should be over. the cases over. you heard what was said. the case should be over. but you will have to make that determination. i think the judge will never allow this case to be over. in a positive way. >> john: trump saying the case should be over because there is no underlying criminal behavior here. no underlying crime, what was your sense being inside the courthouse today of that particular argument? jonathan turley said this, andy mcc
bovee says there will be a recross and also todd blanche, john, just ask for the judge to compel the prosecution to provide them with the name of the next witness. this has become a thing that they are not letting them know that, john. >> john: you know, it's only fair for the defense to know who they are about to bring up on stand so they can prepare themselves. let's bring in fox news sunday anchor and chief legal correspondent, you have a unique perspective because you were inside the...
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. >> i should note one of the things that emil bove, one of trumps lawyers, try to do with david pecker on his memory, which is a standard form of cross. i have to say, i remember having this thought when i was watching the gwyneth paltrow civil case about the ski incident like does anyone really remember at this point who knocked and who? the memory thing seems fine and at some point etc. you are really good about conversations you had, it's hard to remember what that almost 10 years ago. david pecker, "yes." there are some instances where your and fills in gaps, right? "to the best of my knowledge." in this case you have notes because he did fbi intake and there's corroborating documents, which seems to have the prosecution. >> i think you still, nevertheless, as the defense, if that is what we are talking about, them operating this week, you have to attack all angles. if there are any areas with which you can attack his credibility, his opportunity to observe or remember, you have to take those angles. >> let me ask you this judge. we have the motion to show cause on the 10 instances
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david pecker, who is back on the stand for his fourth day of testimony during trump's attorney, emile bove as questioning of the former national enquirer publisher. he attempted to discredit one of the prosecution's key witnesses, trump's x person it's an old attorney, michael cohen. he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration? pecker agreed he was after court, trump weighed in on the trial eight days that we all sitting in courthouse. i just want to thank everybody. i'm michele for through this, like everybody else michael cohen's banker took the stand on friday afternoon, explaining to the dreo he helped set up a bank account for the shell company that cohen ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment stormy daniels, there's no court on monday, but the banker will be back on the stand tuesday, answering question from prosecutors before trump's lawyers get a turn at him. >> kara scannell, cnn, new york former president donald trump will also have a key hearing next week on the gag order against him. thursday morning. judge, merchan will weigh prosecutors arguments tha
david pecker, who is back on the stand for his fourth day of testimony during trump's attorney, emile bove as questioning of the former national enquirer publisher. he attempted to discredit one of the prosecution's key witnesses, trump's x person it's an old attorney, michael cohen. he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration? pecker agreed he was after court, trump weighed in on the trial eight days that we all sitting in courthouse. i just want to thank everybody. i'm michele...
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david pecker, who is back on the stand for his fourth day of testimony during trump's attorney, emile bove as questioning of the former national enquirer publisher. he attempted to discredit one of the prosecution's key witnesses, trump's x personal lazzarini, michael cohen. he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration. pecker agreed he was after court. trump weighed in on the trial, eight days that we sitting in this courthouse i just want to thank everybody for being here. >> this, is like. everybody else michael cohen's bank or took the stand friday afternoon, he described to the jury how he helped cohen set up the shell company that was ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels. >> there's no court on monday, so the banker will be back on the stand tuesday. we're prosecutors will continue to question him then, donald trump's attorneys will get a chance to cross-examine him as his trial continues into next week, amara victor, kara scannell. thanks so much and doing now by former federal prosecutor, at least we'll good morning to you. let me start
david pecker, who is back on the stand for his fourth day of testimony during trump's attorney, emile bove as questioning of the former national enquirer publisher. he attempted to discredit one of the prosecution's key witnesses, trump's x personal lazzarini, michael cohen. he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration. pecker agreed he was after court. trump weighed in on the trial, eight days that we sitting in this courthouse i just want to thank everybody for being here....
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. >> wow, it's, it's the goodness of god through good people like all of you, through people bove, really supported us and care cared about us. and held us up through it all >> and just god's goodness. it's like almost been like a superpower, like i had to pray very hard before we went into see alexander. i really wanted to be able to pray to see him as a human being, see him same age as one of my son's, just to see him as a young man who's made terrible choices and, you know, that's what's helped me is just to know that i'm not alone in this, that god is with me and other good people make good things possible anderson i really firmly believe that column. what do you hope comes out of this? >> i think i'd love to see people recognize that the possible actually exists within the supposedly impossible. i mean, diana's is a woman who lives in new hampshire and in an ordinary house and was a nurse let's practitioner and it's awful thing happened and she could have retreated and she decided, no, i'm going to take the world on and i'm going to change things for other people that's sort of faith
. >> wow, it's, it's the goodness of god through good people like all of you, through people bove, really supported us and care cared about us. and held us up through it all >> and just god's goodness. it's like almost been like a superpower, like i had to pray very hard before we went into see alexander. i really wanted to be able to pray to see him as a human being, see him same age as one of my son's, just to see him as a young man who's made terrible choices and, you know,...
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recycling information from other publications because it was cost efficient and made business sense bove as yes pecker testified that i'm trying to make it sound like the national enquirer was just an aggregator. yeah, that's not really what's going on here. >> and i think there's a few things. number one, the a lot of this hinges on the extent to which the jury either trust the national enquirer trust what they're being told about how the national enquirer worked or is inherently suspicious of it? the ordinary people. and frankly, i don't know what these 12 people think about. is this just what journalism is? or do they think this is disgusting and distasteful and so on. i truly don't know. and jurors can be weird about what they think about facts that prosecutors except to be matters of gospel right. and the other thing is getting to this campaign finance or the campaign question, it's everything comes down to the extent to which you can convince people who simply don't understand. number one, new york law. and number two, how campaigns are run in the united states, that this was somet
recycling information from other publications because it was cost efficient and made business sense bove as yes pecker testified that i'm trying to make it sound like the national enquirer was just an aggregator. yeah, that's not really what's going on here. >> and i think there's a few things. number one, the a lot of this hinges on the extent to which the jury either trust the national enquirer trust what they're being told about how the national enquirer worked or is inherently...
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said that they made that motion can far too late in arguing to the judge, trump's attorney, emile bove, said, this can only be done once, and it must be done right, because the impact it will have on this election that a lawyer for the district attorney's office, steven wu, is their chief appellate attorney. he had pushed back on this saying that this was entirely the wrong way to challenge any of these rulings. so that can only hey, don procedurally after there is a conclusion to this case, a verdict in this trial, he urged the judge saying there is a powerful public interests to ensure this trial moves forward on the scheduled date and just a short time after that, the judge issued this ruling denying the stay, denying trump's effort to stop the trial. what was extraordinary today will win is that this court had a full calendar of appeal arguments, that it was hearing what they had to do was move this down to the basement to rearrange the tables to create a makeshift courtroom so they could accommodate this hearing today. so they created a table for the judge, a table for the attorne
said that they made that motion can far too late in arguing to the judge, trump's attorney, emile bove, said, this can only be done once, and it must be done right, because the impact it will have on this election that a lawyer for the district attorney's office, steven wu, is their chief appellate attorney. he had pushed back on this saying that this was entirely the wrong way to challenge any of these rulings. so that can only hey, don procedurally after there is a conclusion to this case, a...
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pecker says, yes, later emil bove, the defense attorney, says standard operating procedure, as you understand it, correct? pecker says yes. bradley moss. how much does that stick? do you think the jury will be convinced this is just standard operating procedure or after three days of david pecker do you think they're left with a feeling that something unusual was going on here. >> yeah. >> as much as they're going to try to hit this standard operating procedure line. >> this was a rather unique set of circumstances in the way they frame this agreement. i don't think anything we were heard so far on cross-examinati on and want to certainly see what comes out today as outlined. a similar set of facts comparable to what michael cohen when donald trump is set up. so as this goes through, there, obviously they're gonna try to dirty up the national enquirer grade. it's not like they had a pristine reputation in the first place, becomes a question for the jury of do we view this as unique? was this something distinguishable from the normal standard operating procedures, the normal way the national e
pecker says, yes, later emil bove, the defense attorney, says standard operating procedure, as you understand it, correct? pecker says yes. bradley moss. how much does that stick? do you think the jury will be convinced this is just standard operating procedure or after three days of david pecker do you think they're left with a feeling that something unusual was going on here. >> yeah. >> as much as they're going to try to hit this standard operating procedure line. >> this...
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trump's defense attorney, emil bovee ha, had been repeatedlypei referring to trump as president trump when referencing periodso of time when trump was not in office. the d.a.'s office keeps objectinctine mercg and judge mn keeps sustaining those t objections. so okay, convict him of usinheg the wrong title for trump at that timthe. . >> this is this is where we are like mean. >>, en pretty powerful that one. that's pretty crummy. we call president obamt obthat't president. that's crazy that you wouldn't call a former president th's the president. that's that's their title for the rest of their lives. and it just shows you hos.and es process is. and even though the evidence is completele legay the legal allegations are completely bogus, you still have a clearlyo biased judge this juan merchan who donated biden donated to another anti-trump cause. his adult daughter has raised $100 million on this case. he shoul.d recused. >> he didn't recuse. you have this soros partttan, manhattan d.a. alvin bragg, and you have matthewthew collatl deployed from the biden justice department, a senior p
trump's defense attorney, emil bovee ha, had been repeatedlypei referring to trump as president trump when referencing periodso of time when trump was not in office. the d.a.'s office keeps objectinctine mercg and judge mn keeps sustaining those t objections. so okay, convict him of usinheg the wrong title for trump at that timthe. . >> this is this is where we are like mean. >>, en pretty powerful that one. that's pretty crummy. we call president obamt obthat't president. that's...
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. >> trump's attorney, emil bove, a asking if he believed cohen was prone to exaggeration, pecker agreeing that he was the end of it all, the former president had this to say about the trials so far this is eight days that we all sitting in this courthouse. this is all biden-run indictment it's an order to try and win election political opponent nothing like this has ever happened eight days country is going to hell and we sit here day after, day after day, which is their plan well, the foreign president offer no evidence. of course, who any of those claims. there's no evidence that any of what he said is true. and i'm joining us tonight, new york criminal defense attorney arthur aidala, also attorney and former apprentice contestant stacey schneider, cnn political commentator earl lewis cnn legal analyst let's karen friedman, agnifilo and elie honig and cnn's kara scannell, who was in the courtroom today. and we'll be going through the transcript for us throughout the night i want to ask this everybody for care of for you. what stood out today well, i had an actual front row seat today, s
. >> trump's attorney, emil bove, a asking if he believed cohen was prone to exaggeration, pecker agreeing that he was the end of it all, the former president had this to say about the trials so far this is eight days that we all sitting in this courthouse. this is all biden-run indictment it's an order to try and win election political opponent nothing like this has ever happened eight days country is going to hell and we sit here day after, day after day, which is their plan well, the...
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confirmed with pecker that he had been giving trump a heads-up about negative stories during that time, bove as pecker if it was standard operating procedure for media to work with politicians, including sometimes to win elections pecker replied, yes. >> today was breathtaking. this room. he went on, he was breathtaking and amazing testimony. before court, trump commented on pecker's testimony at a stop at a midtown construction site. prosecutors cited his words to the judge on thursday as one of many violations of his gag order not to discuss witnesses in the case. >> how are you a lot of david testimony so far been very nice and he's been david been very nice and nice guy now the judge has set a hearing for wednesday to hear additional arguments over whether donald trump did violate that gag order tomorrow. >> david pecker will be back on the stand. trump's lawyers will continue to cross-examine him. that could he could be on the stand for an additional several hours. all wrapping up this historic first week in this trial, erin kara. thank you very much. outside that courthouse in lower ma
confirmed with pecker that he had been giving trump a heads-up about negative stories during that time, bove as pecker if it was standard operating procedure for media to work with politicians, including sometimes to win elections pecker replied, yes. >> today was breathtaking. this room. he went on, he was breathtaking and amazing testimony. before court, trump commented on pecker's testimony at a stop at a midtown construction site. prosecutors cited his words to the judge on thursday...
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bove cnn for special live coverage, opening statements in the trump hush money trial starting monday at nine in eastern. >> my name is susie loftus, and i'm the head of trust and safety for us data security, tiktok. i'm a former prosecutor and it's my job to keep american tiktok users safe. a big part of that is making sure that their data is protected we're spending $2 to make sure that we're keeping tiktok safe. we have a us lead team. >> we have a third party in american company...
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pecker by emil beauvais, who is it was an interesting, interesting q&a in this back-and-forth with emil bove vein who is a defense attorney for mr. trump pecker acknowledged that negative press for trump's foes was generally good for business pecker said that if the false door man allegations had been true, he would have run the story after the election beauvais elicited from pecker that catch and kill. the term catch and kill buying a story in order to not run it so that it doesn't run anywhere else to protect mr. trump in this case, allegedly, tkatchenko was not discussed at the august 2015 meeting? the defense elicited from packer that he wanted nothing to do with the stormy daniels allegations and the defense made sure to spell out for the jurors that the karen mcdougal deal was reviewed by an election law attorney, jim. do any of these standout to you as important? bits of information for the defense of donald trump for the defense, i would say, you know, in hopefully you set this up an opening statement, but you need to just kinda pound home that were not fighting every single fact tha
pecker by emil beauvais, who is it was an interesting, interesting q&a in this back-and-forth with emil bove vein who is a defense attorney for mr. trump pecker acknowledged that negative press for trump's foes was generally good for business pecker said that if the false door man allegations had been true, he would have run the story after the election beauvais elicited from pecker that catch and kill. the term catch and kill buying a story in order to not run it so that it doesn't run...
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so the fact that emil bove is the one who moved over to that chair suggests that he will be doing the cross-examination of david pecker at that point when that when that time comes, do you have any sense of how long pecker may be on the stand today in the hands of the prosecution. >> it's unclear because as you know, he did not i have as much to do with stormy daniels as he did with the karen mcdougal and dino sajudin doorman hush money one payments. so are the catch and kill payment i should say. and so by trump said to david pecker, i'm going to be turning this over to michael cohen and that's a lot of the interaction pecker might have had with michael cohen exactly. and i think that's what you're going to expect. the cross-examination of david pecker to be it's going to be all the times that donald trump was it's not involved that only michael cohen was because i think the defense attorney is going to want to make this all about michael cohen's credibility and distance trump as much as possible. >> they really trump attorney todd blanche is nodding along as trump speaks with him be
so the fact that emil bove is the one who moved over to that chair suggests that he will be doing the cross-examination of david pecker at that point when that when that time comes, do you have any sense of how long pecker may be on the stand today in the hands of the prosecution. >> it's unclear because as you know, he did not i have as much to do with stormy daniels as he did with the karen mcdougal and dino sajudin doorman hush money one payments. so are the catch and kill payment i...
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i think that is giving fed officials confidence that policy rates are richard bove.jonathan: thank you. andrew hollenhorst of citi. this is sounding more and more like most dfc in reverse. we have talked about it a few times around this table. the calls for cuts now sound like the calls for hikes coming out of the financial crisis in 2009. they were always 12 months away. it was sort of a rolling 12 months. i heard the same idea, talking about 2015 in reverse, when we had the first hike and had to wait 12 months to get the next one. lisa: it is the reason why there is zero conviction right now when you talk to a lot of people. we do not understand the inflationary regime we are in. we did not understand it in the post -- i will speak for myself. it is hard to understand where we are now, whether we are in a substantially higher inflationary environment for the foreseeable future. jonathan: a lot of people equally confused. coming up in the second hour of "bloomberg surveillance," darrell cronk of wells fargo, jeannette lowe of strategas, craig -- zach griffiths of cr
i think that is giving fed officials confidence that policy rates are richard bove.jonathan: thank you. andrew hollenhorst of citi. this is sounding more and more like most dfc in reverse. we have talked about it a few times around this table. the calls for cuts now sound like the calls for hikes coming out of the financial crisis in 2009. they were always 12 months away. it was sort of a rolling 12 months. i heard the same idea, talking about 2015 in reverse, when we had the first hike and had...
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tell us what you saw kara which bove off opening statements began today, donald trump sitting there watching a screen of himself, watching the proceedings as he sat at the defense table, the first former president to ever do so. >> and if prosecutors began, they're telling their story to the jury tun the jury that this was a conspiracy and a cover up all to hide the hush money payments made to stormy daniels to stop her from going public with her allegations of a sexual encounter with trump a decade earlier, and that they falsified business records in order to cover up the reimbursement the money that michael cohen had initially given to stormy daniels as the prosecutors put it. this is a conspiracy. this is a cover up. it's election fraud, pure and simpler than trump's attorneys address the jurors who were given notebooks and and so they could take notes during opening statements. trump had turned his chair to watch his lawyer talked to the jury. and what first words out of his attorneys mouth? he's told the jury, president trump is innocent. president trump did not commit any crimes. the m
tell us what you saw kara which bove off opening statements began today, donald trump sitting there watching a screen of himself, watching the proceedings as he sat at the defense table, the first former president to ever do so. >> and if prosecutors began, they're telling their story to the jury tun the jury that this was a conspiracy and a cover up all to hide the hush money payments made to stormy daniels to stop her from going public with her allegations of a sexual encounter with...
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where trump attorney emile bove drill down on david pecker is 2018 interview with the fbi and some inconsistenciesrom that interview and pecker's current testimony emerged, how do inconsistencies like that way in a jury as they look at a case well, i think it's more about how the jury already has viewed the witness, where they feel that he's been authentic and sincere and straightforward with them. >> if they feel that he's been kind of a little bit shady and some of his answers, even on the direct testimony, they don't particularly like him, then they can see those inconsistencies as really key to credibility problems. but a lot of times we do focus on minor points and whether that really does it and sometimes it's a forest for the trees type of issue. jury is really looking at, well, what is this really say? is this really a bad conduct? tier? what is really say about the witness, these small inconsistencies tend to not have that gradient impact unless there's a big blow to the witnesses credibility. so i'm not sure it's going to have a tremendous effect at this point. >> yeah, interesting. many
where trump attorney emile bove drill down on david pecker is 2018 interview with the fbi and some inconsistenciesrom that interview and pecker's current testimony emerged, how do inconsistencies like that way in a jury as they look at a case well, i think it's more about how the jury already has viewed the witness, where they feel that he's been authentic and sincere and straightforward with them. >> if they feel that he's been kind of a little bit shady and some of his answers, even on...
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begin, and i'll just keep you posted as it starts, but yes, it is beginning trump's attorney, emil bove, is taken in the podium to begin the cross-examination of david pecker. >> so from the perspective of the jury, they've been hearing now over several days broken up, and i think that's important, emphasized broken up the direct examination of pecker. now you have the cross-examination starting they're not going to sleep on it. it's not going to start to morning tomorrow morning. it starting right now. what do you think about that from? what it means for the jury they will definitely have overnight before they hear the completion of the cross i'd be surprised if they finished it today so they'll have a lot of time to think about it if they choose to think about it. >> one of the things that jurors do look pretty closely at what when it comes to direct versus cross-examination is the demeanor of the witness. and day today, how does that demean or change or not? so jurors focus quite a lot on the content of what witnesses say, but they also focus on the demeanor that ange from direct acr
begin, and i'll just keep you posted as it starts, but yes, it is beginning trump's attorney, emil bove, is taken in the podium to begin the cross-examination of david pecker. >> so from the perspective of the jury, they've been hearing now over several days broken up, and i think that's important, emphasized broken up the direct examination of pecker. now you have the cross-examination starting they're not going to sleep on it. it's not going to start to morning tomorrow morning. it...
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told inside the courtroom has been veering from speaking with one attorney to talk to the other, emil bove, who's now sitting in the first chair and let's set the stage for the testimony we're going to hear today. if we can't elie honig because david obviously played a crucial role, at least in trump's mind, in his 2016 campaign helping to suppress stories that would be damaging and helping to push stories. however nonsensical against donald trump's opponents. and right now, i'm thinking about the story about ted cruz's dad right? somehow being involved in the kennedy assassination and completely deranged story pushed by the national enquirer that donald trump in may when he of 2016, when he was still facing off against ted cruz, was pushing when he would do the interviews. >> david is the ultimate insider here and he and trump, it's important, understand, they go way back. >> they used to hang out in manhattan and hit the party siem together and they had been doing this caching kill tactic well before donald trump was even a candidate, which by the way, may come into play when it comes to
told inside the courtroom has been veering from speaking with one attorney to talk to the other, emil bove, who's now sitting in the first chair and let's set the stage for the testimony we're going to hear today. if we can't elie honig because david obviously played a crucial role, at least in trump's mind, in his 2016 campaign helping to suppress stories that would be damaging and helping to push stories. however nonsensical against donald trump's opponents. and right now, i'm thinking about...