i am pleased to have mark bowden at the table.rk. >> thank you, jeff. >> goldberg: i'm glad you're here. the cover story this month is about north korea and the seemingly impossible challenge north korea poses to u.s. policy makers. we heard yesterday about otto warmbier, the american student imprisoned on false and ridiculous charges nonetheless, however you want to frame it, and was somehow catastrophically injured, we don't really understand how, in his north korean prison and died yesterday. i want you to just talk for one minute about what you think might have happened, why this happened and what it could mean. >> that's an outlaw regime, and they're very, very dangerous, as the cover story tries to make clear, but they're also very petty. and the real outrage, i don't know exactly what happened to this kid, but he apparently was taking a poster off a wall -- >> goldberg: even if that's true. >> even if that is true, what, he got 20 years hard labor or something? then, obviously, something awful happened to him, and we don't

host: we are talking with the atlantic's mark bowden about his piece, how to deal with north korea.epublicans can call -- mark, i want to talk about the united states preparedness. is the united states prepared to deal with a potential strike? and report in the washington examiner this week says the united states failed to intercept a missile test over hawaii. how concerned should we be? guest: we ought to be very concerned. tore is no adequate response an icbm attack. it turned out to be a very difficult technological challenge to hit a missile once it is in flight. the united states is fairly good at targeting missiles just before they are launched or immediately after they are launched, if they are liquid .ueled rockets lately north korea has been experiencing with solid fueled rockets which are much harder to detect prior to launch. we would have to have the ability to hit that missile in mid flight. record only around a 50% of being successful doing that. host: helen is calling in from georgia on our democratic line. caller: good morning. hi mark. , i you explain more about bel

[applaus [applause] >> the book is "hue 1968", mark bowden is the author. thank you for your time today. [applaus [applause]. >> all right, thank you very much. we've got hue 1968 sold right outside the auditorium. >> thank you very much, appreciate it. >> you're watching book tv on c-span 2, television for serious readers. we're halfway through the coverage of the printers row lit fest from chicago. and david callaghan will discuss the new book on philanthropy, it's called "the givers." and now on book tv we'll introduce the new president of the norton publishing company. give us a quick synopsis of your career to this point. >> my career, i've spent almost 34 years at ww north. i was hired as a college traveler, selling books to campuses in ohio and kentucky and indiana. always wanted to be an editor in the literature field and eventually editing anthologies of literature for 30 years and doing some other kinds of work. and then this, so, it's a great ride. >> what are your duties going to entail as the new president? >> i think my main duty is to keep on

i think the four options that mark bowden sets out, he rightly says none of them are attractive.nk donald trump did stumble on something important when he said he was willing to talk to the north koreans. the tragedy is, if we are now in a situation. jeffrey: invite him to the white house? >> yes, invite him to the white house. the north koreans now cannot be rewarded for the kind of behavior -- the appalling death of the american citizen. and the most troubling thing is not that the chinese will not talk to the north koreans, it is that the north koreans feel strong enough that they don't even want to talk to the chinese because that speaks to a sense of isolation and even an irrationality. people like me have said, don't asmiss the regime irrational. if they are not willing to talk to the chinese, you begin to doubt your own view of the rationality. richard, does the death yesterday of this young american student, does this horrific incident, does this pushes closer to a confrontation? >> i think it is one more sign of the retaliate, both at home and what they are willing to do

i think the four options that mark bowden sets out, he rightly says none of them are tractive.hink donald trump did stumble on something important when he said he was willing to talk to the north koreans. the tragedy is we're now in a situation -- jeffrey: invite him to the white house. a what we now confront is situation where he cannot be rewarded, the north koreans cannot be rewarded for the kinds of behaviors, and the appalling death of the most troubling thing is not that the chinese won't talk to the north koreans. if the north koreans feel strong enough, they do not want to talk to the chinese. that's space to a sense of isolation and rationality. people say don't dismiss the regime as necessarily irrational. there may be irrationality there. if they are not able to -- willing to talk to the chinese, you can doubt your own view of irrationality. jeffrey: the death yesterday of this young american student. does this horrific incident push us closer to confrontation? >> it is one more sign of brutality at home and what it is willing to do for foreigners willing to visit th

[applaus [applause] >> the book is "hue 1968", mark bowden is the author. thank you for your time today. [applaus [applause]. >> all right, thank you very much. we've got hue 1968 sold right outside the auditorium. >> thank you very much, appreciate it.

so it's hard to find someone more qualified than howard to talk about that along with bowden gray who will be the commenter and reactor to howard's comments after howard delivered some opening remarks. c. boyden gray is the founding partner of boyden gray and associates. he's a former u.s. ambassador to the european union, and a former white house counsel and also very pertinent to our program today. he was counsel back in the first bush administration, george h.w. bush, to the president -- to the presidential task force on regulatory relief for which he wrote the original executive order 12291. we don't want to get hung up on numbers here, and i have a hard time remembering, but he can fill us in on what that was. boyden, someone told me once when i had another ambassador on our program, we had a few that once you're an ambassador that that title never leaves you, that you're always ambassador. so if i forget to -- boyden is a longtime friend of mine, if i don't refer to you as ambassador i'll ask your indulgence with that. the other thing about bowden before we get started, he left

bowden barrett is a good full black —— full—back.s. what does courtney lawes have to do to get in the starting 15? it seems crazy. you mentioned steve hansen has been on the moral high ground, he has been setting the agenda since the first victory. what do you make of the pressure the warren gatland and the lions are under? steve hansen is under pressure as well. they need to win this test. they do not like losing. gatland came home wanting to prove to new zealanders that his achievements abroad which perhaps a lot of us do not take much notice of, were worthy of notice, and i think that has kind of unravelled a little bit because obviously, the tour has not gone the way he wanted it to. but, if they can get up on the next two test matches, then warren gatland leaves here a hero. that is the kiwi view. let's hear from someone who knows what it is like to tour in new zealand. gavin hastings was lions captain back in 1993. his side won the second test that went on to lose the series 2—1. when you suffer defeat, it is probably easier to

later on in our weekly spotlight , mark bowden of the atlantic will be here to discuss a his piece onptions for dealing with the threat of a nuclear north korea. we will be right back. recently on c-span williams college students that great what at a senate judiciary committee on free speech on college campuses. lime'spresident of college unilaterally cancel a speaker. he enacted new speaker policies that made bringing speakers to campus and a specialist arduous con sept for our group. to thefind undemocratic intellectual character to the college i attend is the president's decision to does invite a speaker solely on the basis of his inflammatory remarks about race. i was sitting next

. >> we are also learning more about the victims, police identifying australian christie bowden a 28-friends are mourning the loss of 30-year-old archie bald. >> terrorism has no bounds. >> people all across the uk observe add moment of silence in honor of all those killed and injured. london's mayor standing alongside ambulance workers while others at the end of london bridge. >> devastating that someone would come and mow these people down. >> vice president mike pence also expressing his con do lenses today. >> as the president said two nights ago, this blood shed must end. >> 12 people arrested after the attacks have since been released as parties continue to look for possible accomplices. >>> well we've seen some cooler weather around the bay area as of late and rain in the forecast, can i not believe it. >> might need an umbrella. i will detail that coming up. >>> let's talk about what is going on outside our doors as alex a lewded to. we have a cooldown, partly cloudy skies in and around the by area, partly to mostly cloudy right along the coast. view across the oaklandest rare

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. >> dickerson: we're back with mark bowden, the author of "blackhawk down."est book is "sway: 1968, the turning point in vietnam." today he's here to talk about whether north korea can be stopped. let's start with that answer. >> i don't think so, john. our best hope is china will apply significant pressure to get them to back away from this nuclear program, but nothing that the united states has done over the past 30 or 40 years has slowed their progress. and if you look at the actual military options that we have there, they're, you know, none of them are things that we would want to do. >> dickerson: you have written about vietnam. you know about the kind of public consensus that forms around ideas and they kind of create a momentum of themselves. and as you write in the piece, there is this consensus on both the left and the right that north korea cannot have a nuclear weapon. why? >> because they have been a serious threat to obviously south korea and to the region for many years now. particularly over the last ten years. i think for the united states, t

. >> goldberg: we continue with mark bowden of "the atlantic."er story for the magazine is called "how to deal with north korea." >> north korea has been a very dangerous player for a long time. they sunk a korean ship a few years ago, killed 70 or more sailors on board. they shelled an island and practically leveled it and killed a lot

she's 28-year-old christie bowden of australia.unning to help victims when she became a victim herself. mike. >> joe , thank you. isis is claiming responsibility for a shooting and hostage situation in australia that is being called a terror attack. police say that a gunman killed a man inside the lobby of an apartment building and then held a woman hostage for several hours yesterday. the woman was rescued and the gunman was killed during a shoot out with police. three police officers were injured in that same shoot out. the gunman has been identified as a 29-year-old refugee. police say he had a long and violent criminal record and that he was one of two men akuwaited acquitted of plotting -- acquitted in 2010 of a failed attack. >> terrorist attack by a known criminal, a man who was only recently released on parole, is a shocking cowardly crime. >> investigators say that it appears that the gunman acted alone and that the situation is not part of any on going threat. >>> today is day two of apple's worldwide developers conferenc