and dave bowditch is being versus cautious, as they should. i think you're going to see this thing have a very close connection to that facility. >> we are getting indications this is different from other mass shootings we have seen before. do you agree with that? >> different in the mass shootings that have taken place in the united states which have all been deranged individuals with a grudge or some sort of mental illness. we have seen one or two terrorist related attacks, hasan and the tsarnaev brothers. but most have been deranged individuals, homegrown, not driven by any type of ideology. this is different. this is multiple shooters, mass casualties, military style of operation. basically, what we saw in paris. >> listen, i want to tell our viewers as we are watching this we have chris swecker on the phone with us saying this is different than most mass shootings that happen in the united states. but we are watching the scene in redlands, california where the atf -- the atf on the scene now with a row boat sweeping a town home there. the

bowditch changed so from the bureau's 2.and from the beginning as a possible terrorist attack becausef governmental posture it changes a few things but a immediately there are overseas leads sent out to track down these issues and especially the female where she was from and her background. so the investigation is proceeding this may speed up but they have been going toul full speed for the first few minutes after. lou: and as pointed out in the early hours of this terrible event we were discussing this as a terrorist act to be certain and thank you for your continued insight into what is happening with this investigation. and want to complement the san bernardino police their actions in responding to this attack is extraordinarys we all salute you and all those of law-enforcement there in san bernardino. great work. the fbi and leadership says americans are fearful to the point we might be paralyzed. does that hurt your feelings? or take you off?cast your vote b cast your vote at of lou dobbs.com. lakes to everything found that the dogs.com her cry minnesota share of as a close call

so, first off, my name is -- my name is david bowditch, the executive director of fbi here in the los angeles field office. >> can you spell that. b-o-w-d-i-c-h. first off, we want to extend our true sadness to the families of the victims. there are many, many victims who were involved here. some are obviously deceased, others are wounded and being treated as we speak. this is truly a tragedy in our country, and we will continue to apply all the resources necessary to assure that both us, the sheriff's department, the san bernardino police department, as well as the atf work this thing together to assure that we have chased down every lead to solve this case. secondly, we are bringing in fbi resources. we have agents on a house in redlands, california, right now. that house, as we know, we do not know the contents of what's in that house, but previous active shooter incidents have shown us that there are times when devices are left behind. we do not have any indications there are devices, to my knowledge, but we certainly are going to proceed very cautiously into that house to preserv

. >> my name is david bowditch, in charge of the los angeles field office. b-o-w-d-i-t-c-h. first, we want to extend our true sadness to the families of the victims. there are many, many victims who were involved here. some are obviously deceased. others are wounded and being treated at we speak. this is truly a tragedy in our country. and we will continue to apply all the resources necessary to assure that both us, the sheriff's department, the san bernadino police department has well as the atf, work this thing together to assure that we have fa chased down every lead to solve this case. secondly, we are bringing in fbi resources, we have agents on a house in redlands, california, right now. that house, as we know, we do not know the contents of what's in that house, but previous act ty shooter incidents have shown us that there are times when devices are left behind. we do not have any indications there are devices, to my knowledge, but we certainly are going to proceed very cautiously into that house to preserve life and limb of our employ crees. we're bringing evidence

i will now have dave bowditch, assistant director from fbi say a few words. >> thank you, sheriff. the fbi is here with state and local partners as well as partners from the atf. we're here essentially to assure all wounded are extracted and ultimately public safety is the number one goal at this point. we will work as the law enforcement community to assure we've done everything we can to find, locate and apprehend these subjects. at this point i know one of your questions is going to be, is this a terrorist incident? i will tell you right now we do not know if this is a terrorist incident. so we start from the beginning. working with our local partners. we take the presumption it may be, it may not be, but we will work hand in hand with them from the beginning. if things change we're here from the get go and there is no steps lost as the investigation proceeds. at this point i will turn it back over to the chief. >> so very quickly, after the initial response we have several hundred people that were in the building that are not injured. those people have been taken to a safe loca

bowditch changed anything, from the bureau standpoint, from the working agents and bureau standpoint, we've been investigating this from the beginning as a possible terrorist attack. from a political, government posture it changes a few things. from the ground level, investigators it didn't change anything, there were leads sent out that night to track down the issue, especially the female where, she was from? her background? who she was associated with over there? things like that. i think that the investigation is proceeding. i think this may speed it up. but i think they've been going at full speed since the first few minutes after. lou: bobby, thank you so much. bill, thank you, and as bill pointed out on this broadcast and thanks to both bobby chacon and bill gavin in the early hours of this terrible event. we were all discussing this as a terrorist act to be certain. and we want to thank you for your continued insight into what is happening with this investigation, gentlemen. >>> you know what? and i want to complement again, the san bernardino police, their actions in respondin

david bowditch was saying that they do have to acknowledge that they now are exploring that possibility that this could have been inspired. >> reporter: that's right, david. and if not a terrorism with a big t, certainly terror in this community. an entire city on lockdown for most of the day. we were just in that community where there was the scare. they thought they had found that third outstanding shooter, the last person still suspected to be involved and there was a school right there, an elementary school and we were told that there were still people on lockdown in that school, because, remember, this event began at 11:00 local time, in the middle of school. everything, this entire community, closed down, government offices. people there told to shelter in place. and entire communities clamped down and on lockdown. and today, the agony of the 14 families, they still don't know the identity of all of those victims. they haven't been identified yet and a number of families in this community, officials involved in public health that don't know the fate of their family members and the

i will now have dave bowditch, assistant director from fbi say a few words. >> thank you, sheriff. the fbi is here with state and local partners as well as partners from the atf. we're here essentially to assure all wounded are extracted and ultimately public safety is the number one goal at this point. we will work as the law enforcement community to assure we've done everything we can to find, locate and apprehend these subjects. at this point i know one of your questions is going to be, is this a terrorist incident? i will tell you right now we do

. >> michael, the fbi had that guy dave bowditch who said that the process of evidence was ongoing, but they were done with the suspects' apartment, but when the media got in there, there were a number of items there. and why would the fbi say that the search is over, and would they want to go back, and if so, is the information there not going to happen, because it has been trampled over? >> well, it is very very dif doubt second-guess what investigators are doing. they go into the scene. they secure the scene. they then go to find out what is in the scene, and catalog it, and take what they need. maybe there were things that are not relevant necessarily, and it is hard to come in, and take a look at what is there, and say, gee, isn't this more relevant? i assure you these are sophisticated personnel in the investigations, and the fbi is very good at doing this, and what they decide to take or not take, there is a good rational about that, and none of which i am aware of. >> thank you, michael balboni, always good to talk to you. >> thank you. >>> and now, the first time in 95 years sp

office of fbi david bowditch. with that, i'll hand it off to the police chief. >> this happened around 11:00. it was quickly apparent we had what amounted to a active shooter. there was a massive response that initially was officer from our department that responded, and then very quickly as word spread weld a mayesive response from virt illy every law enforcement agency. california highway patrol. probation department, parole, a number of agencies responded. what we have so far is information that up to three people entered the building and opened fire inside of the building. we do have some preliminary numbers, upwards of 14 people who are dead and upwards of 14 people who are injured. we think those are reliability, but those are potential subject to change. the 14 that are wounded have been taken to various area hospitals. in addition to the law enforcement response, there was a massive medical aid response from the fire department, other area fire departments as well as the american medical response. as offic