of facts and memos and pictures with the whole raft of supporting documents that i offered was a boxload, but nato was not interested in receiving them. they did not ask for them, but we offered them. we presented it to them and gave them several weeks to reply. to answer to provide some exculpatory information and point out any errors. ultimately they got on the phone, but they did not contest. >> did that change the policy at all? >> well, it is hard to tell, because nato is a very up usual umbrella organization that stands for on the surface transparency, civilian control of the military, and yet when you go the nato the say, we want to talk about this particular event there is a particular game that is played of the anonymity whereby each country that participates in nato can participate but not on the operational level, so you don't know which country dropped that pom unle bomb unless you walk it back. so most of the americans don't know that the danes bombed some civilians and when you go to nato they say you have to talk to the host and the participating nations about this and whe