they say now, the jeff boyar the new head of safety for gm said we did not go far enough.o enough is the exact quote. some of these were recalled previously. if you have got one of the cars, we'll put up a complete list, exhaustive list, later. even if i had been repaired before it may have to go back in. gm on it i suppose. liz: jeff flock, thank you very much. david? david: thank you, jeff. if you're looking for a "no-spin zone" in a corporation usually have to turn to the cfo. a solid cfo may be criticized for holding back a visionary ceo but he could be praised of warning investors if a company is spending more than what is coming in. a lot of investors look closely at deloitte's quarterly cfo survey run by our next guest, sandy cockrell. we had you for the last quarter. we really enjoyed that. it's a bellwether what is happening with the economy. >> yeah. david: the overall message is that the cfos are not optimistic, are they? >> they're optimistic but not at levels we've seen at this point in the calendar year of our survey. david: why is that? >> number one, regula