lease we'll and brad friedman. thank you both for being here.ease, let me turn to jason patric and a sperm donor who wants to be so much more. >> he doesn't want to be so much more. he did sign paper saying i want to be part of this baby's life. the baby is now 3 years old. he did sign that form. he did not relinquish custody and that's really the big thing that's different here, from men who relinquish company. now what's happening is there's a billion being presented i thing as a possible luck policy matter, you want them to be involved. not just paying child support but being involved. we want to support that. >> it's a conflict in our society and culture that's going to work its way through. do you think that men will have parental rights in cases like this? >> i thank i will. i think the california case is going to go through. the california law is going go through. and if the man can show he really is involved in the child's life in the best interest of the child, he should be involved. >> brad, let me turn to you, obama care, another brok