how brad -- i am talking up brad pyatt nutritional company. brad pyatt. >> he played a few years in the nfl. no one had really heard of him. as special teams guy. while he was in the league, he decided to start a sports nutrition brand. his first attempt failed. his second was called "musclepharm." it got big fast. of former players go into this. it is supplements, mostly protein, stuff like that. his brand became the fifth-largest in the market area they signed guys like tiger woods, arnold schwarzenegger. big names. was an interesting character. he seemed like he was succeeding and away a lot of former athletes, especially those not that famous, do not. back a little. what came first, the success of the project and then the celebrity? ira: he was super aggressive in initially, he could not afford tiger woods. but he was doing a lot with ultimate fighters. 00 tould pay them $15,0 put the logo on their shorts while fighting. carol: so the company was growing. they are getting celebrity endorsements. but they also keep issuing stock. ira: right