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host: brad raffensperger is our guest. we open -- we welcome your calls. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. and for independents and all others, (202) 748-8002. if you are a georgia resident, that line is (202) 748-8003. i wanted to read just a bit from that ninth chapter, the call. president trump in that call says we have at least two or three, anywhere from 250,000 to 300,000 ballots that were dropped mysteriously. much of that had to do with fulton county. he also said another tremendous number, we will have an accurate number over the next few days with certified accountants. an accurate number will be given and it is in the 50's of thousands. that is people who went to vote and told they can't vote and told they can't go because they already voted. it is a very sad thing, said president trump read they walked out complaining. the numbers large, we will have it for you. but it is much more than the number of 11,779. brad, i think you agree with that, right? that's something i think everyone

and georgia's secretary of state, brad raffensperger, is joining me now. e new book, "integrity counts." secretary raffensperger, thanks for joining us on this. we appreciate it. what are the dangers of former president trump not being held accountable for his actions after the 2020 election? >> i think right now america is at a crossroads and this georgia we've been front and center since 2018. stacey abrams lost georgia by 55,000 votes and did not concede and talked about voter suppression, and she really set the table for president trump to talk about voter fraud. neither one of those were supported by the facts. >> secretary raffensperger, stacey abrams talking about voter suppression, disenfranchisement in the black and brown community in georgia, that is a completely different situation than then president trump calling you up and saying, find me 11,000 votes. i just need 11,000 votes to win this thing. that is completely different. than stacey abrams calling into question what happened in the georgia governor's race who then she subsequently let up o

brad raffensperger has written a new book called "integrity counts." mr. raffensperger, welcome back to "meet the press." >> good morning, chuck. >> let me start. you have a full annotated transcript of the infamous call from president trump on january 6th at the height of his efforts in order to overturn this election. i want to play a specific audio clip that you write about. here it is. >> that is criminal, you know. that's criminal, okay? that's another criminal -- another of the many criminal events. many criminal events here. i watched you this morning, and you said, well, there was no criminality. all of this stuff is very dangerous stuff when you talk about no criminality. i think it's very dangerous for you to say that. >> in your book, you break in after this point because he's talking about overseas blots, you write this. i felt then and still believe today this is a threat. others obviously thought so, too, because some of trump's more radical followers have responded as if it's their duty to carry out this threat. that's a big charge. you felt

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brad raffensperger has written a new book called "integrity counts." mr. the press." >> good morning, chuck. >> let me start. you have a full annotated transcript of the infamous call from president trump in the height of the efforts to overturn the election. i want to watch a specific audio clip that you write about. here it is. >> that is criminal, you know. that's criminal, okay? that's another criminal -- another of the many criminal events. many criminal' lentz here. i watched you this morning, and you said, well, there was no criminality. all of this stuff is very dangerous stuff when you talk about no criminality. i think it's very dangerous for you to say that. >> in your book, you break in after this point, he's talking about overseas ballots. you write i felt then and still believe today this is a threat. ':zdove today this is a threat. i was never concerned from the standpoint of that. i heard the threat he was making. obviously when he called me an en meef o of the people that ginned up his crowd. i responded in the book and said i would never

brad raffensperger, any final comments? guest: that is why i wrote "mr. raffensperger -- mr.ntegrity counts" to set the record straight. host: that is the new book by secretary raffensperger, "integrity counts." thank you for joining us this morning. next, we are joined -- we will turn our attention to the elections. our conversation next with the conservative american union chairman matt schlapp. ♪ >> book tv every weekend features leading authors discussing their latest nonfiction books. coming up, our conversation with the columnist who will discuss his books as well as politics and conservatism in america. "about books" looks at the latest releases and bestseller list. then, andrew yang talks about his book "forward." he argues america's current economic and political systems are outdated and need transformation to address 21st century challenges. he is interviewed by eric swalwell. watch book tv every weekend and find a full schedule on your program guide, or watch online anytime. >> ♪ >> you can be part of the national conversation by participating in c-span's studentca

brad raffensperger, any final comments? guest: that is why i wrote "mr. raffensperger -- mr.rity counts" to set the record straight. host: that is the new book by secretary raffensperger, "integrity counts." thank you for joining us this morning. next, we are joined -- we will turn our attention to the elections. our conversation next with the conservative american union chairman matt schlapp. ♪ book tv features authors discussing their latest nonfiction books. our two hour conversation with columnists will discuss his books, faith, and conservatism, in america. we will look at publishing industry news and trends and the latest nonfiction releases and bestseller lists. afterwards, andrew yang talks about his book forward, notes on the future of our democracy. they argue that the current system is outdated and it needs transformation in order to address the first century challenges. he is interviewed by eric swalwell. find a full schedule on your program guide or watch online, anytime at booktv.org. ♪ >> you can be part of the national conversation by participating in the stud

despite that enormous pressure, brad raffensperger didn't cave. he certified biden's win in georgia. that comes with consequences for his political career as trump's gop turned him into public enemy number one. raffensperger has amassed no major endorsements next year and struggled to win minimal support in straw polls at republican events across georgia. unprecedented fall for an incumbent in the secretary of state race. the state legislature controlled by his party stripped him of the seat on the elections board for the 2022 election. purely in retaliation. raffensperger's fall from grace for deciding to actually abide by the oath of office should serve as a reminder of the forces running the gop right now. it puts the spotlight on how fragile this democracy is. raffensperger chose to do the right thing, but someone else might not have. someone else might have caved under that pressure. the safety valve of democracy is certain individuals choose to do the right thing. while the overt january 6th attack on the democratic process may be in the rear

georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger, joins me now. mister secretary, thank you so much for your time this evening. i wanted to start with that infamous phone call, and in your book, you say that you felt then, you still believe today that the former president threatened to. i know that prosecutors, in fulton county, opened a criminal investigation into trump's investigation for overturning the results last february. i know that you have not been interviewed for that investigation. but you have expressed a willingness to do so. if you tell investigators the same details that you share to your book that i have read. do you believe that it is enough to charge the former president with criminal charges? >> well, good evening, i am a structural engineer and i know numbers but i don't pretend to practice law. so we will let the lawyers decide on what that arises tool or what doesn't rise to. but put the one hour ten minute conversation in my book, it was my observation at various points. because, during that conversation with president trum

he urged brad raffensperger to find just enough votes to flip the election in his favor.eorgia's fulton county is reportedly working toward convening a special grand jury in her ongoing criminal investigation into interference. joining me now, the man who had that memorable showdown with the ex-president, georgia's secretary of state, brad raffensperger. he is also the author of "integrity counts." thank you so much for joining us. the former president, brad, has spent the past year continuing to undermine confidence in the electoral process and pushing the lie about the election. in a recent nprm maris poll, a large percentage said they will the election in 2024. what do you make of this? even more and more republicans are saying that they believe the election was stolen. in your book you talk about that episode where he tried to overturn the results in the pressure campaign. if he became the 2024 republican nominee for president, would you support him? >> that's so far out in the future. there will abebe a lot of peopl that run. it will be an open primary system. here w

i will always black the blue. >> brad raffensperger, appreciate your time. >>> up next. surprising comments from conservative supreme court justices hearing arguments on the abortion ban in texas and what their remarks could mean for the future of the law. and is designed to last for up to 48 hours. with secret, keep it fresh. available in over 10 amazing scents and aluminum free. secret ♪ ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ >>> two key conservative justices signalled today that they'd allow abortion providers to pursue a court challenge to a texas law that -- that's virtually ended abortion in the state after six weeks of pregnancy. and that would represent an important shift from a 5-4 ruling in september that allowed the law to go into effect. supporters and opponents of the law gathered outside as the court heard three hours of arguments today. the justices have to decide whether abortion providers in texas and the justice department have the leg

here on "the beat" we are joined by that potential witness and a public official, brad raffenspergerblican. his book is "integrity counts." thanks for being here. >> thank you, ari. >> did donald trump ask you to do anything illegal? >> he asked me to recalculate or look and we had facts and truth on our side and that's why i wrote "integrity counts" to set the record straight. there were not 5,000 people. it was less than 5. things like that. so i wanted to write the book to set the record straight so people could understand that president trump came up short in the state of georgia. >> came up short and lost. in your view, does it end there or do you think that he or his aides or allies crossed any lines in georgia? >> that's really a legal question. i'm a structural engineer secretary of state, obviously, but we'll let the judges and we'll let the lawyers decide those issues. but i wrote the book and i really have been fact based on it. but i'm trying to help my republican friends to understand what actually happened in georgia. 28,000 georgians skipped the presidential ballot. th

president desperate to stay in power, perhaps none more so than georgia's secretary of state brad raffensperger. in his new book, "integrity counts", he explains his experiences and just how close our democracy came to being dismantled. and he joins me now. mr. raffensperger, thank you very much for being here. you did step in to history when president trump attacked you after the election and asked you to change the results. you said no, and your book includes this transcript of that, what, hour-long-plus phone call you had with president trump. you took that call to include threats from him. how so? >> that was something i think our office, and i was well prepared for. in fact, when i stepped into the office in january 2019, the first thing was stacey abrams had about nine law suits about the stolen election claim concept she had wasn't based on the truth, which was voter suppression. in 2020, it was voter fraud. none of them were based on the truth. we knew we had the facts on our side and i needed to continue politically, respectfully, let the president know he did lose the election and thi

urging him to change the results of the election. >> i want to talk to brad raffensperger. [ bleep ] for not [ bleep ] doing the right thing. this election was [ bleep ] stolen. >> we could feel the angst and the hate building in the air over nothing, over a mirage, over a shining object to deflect from the fact that donald trump had lost the election fair and squarely. >> you could have you could have very easily kept your mouth shut, not said anything, going looping. was this all worth it, putting it on the line for the truth? >> the answer is it was absolutely worth it. >> the lieutenant governor found himself among the few who would speak the truth, but he was not alone. disgusted by threats his election workers were getting from misled trump supporters, sterg also became a vocal critic of the public lies. >> i remember our warehouse manager at the center for elections was taking the trash out. all these people swarm around him with him you're going to prison, you're going to prison. he was a warehouse guy. nobody should have to go through in a. >> sterling gave a blist

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brad raffensperger. i appreciate you being here.the author of a new book called "integrity counts." your new book is evidence in the probe of mr. trump and his role to try to overturn the 2020 election. when you heard the former president proudly recount his interactions with you, and, of course, you were there, you took the phone call from him, did you think to yourself that he might be trying to build is some sort of a case or he was trying to lay the groundwork for there to be some level of building a case against himself? did it seem like it was coming out that way? >> well, good afternoon. when i had the conversation with the president, we already had several lawsuits from the trump campaign and their allies, and so i knew whatever we said could possibly be part of the deposition and court proceeding. so i wanted to be very factual. and i let him know he did not have the right facts. and so he did, you know, make all of his allegations in that call. he said there was 5,000 dead people. his people actually said 10,000 officially

reporter: as donald trump fired off a september letter demanding georgia's secretary of state brad raffenspergerst corrupt election in the history our country. >> reporter: bonnie willis took notice. >> what i told you that the trump investigation is ongoing. >> the fulton county district attorney told staffers she want that had letter, the original copy, according to a person familiar. while trump continues to bello about 2020 and inserts himself into peach state politics, his public rants are providing new fodder to investigators as they examine whether trump's election meddling efforts were criminal. at a recent campaign stop with georgia candidate, trump took the stage before an adoring crowd. >> literally wanted to call a special election, and i think the governor is the only one that can call it, right. >> reporter: and he offered more insight with interactions with another potentially relevant witness around the 2020 election, georgia governor brian kemp. >> these young guys would come back, sir, we spoke to governor kemp and won't do anything on election. >> reporter: they went to trump'

one who is criticized you, of course, is secretary of the state brad raffensperger. to him last night. we talked about the pressure he's felt from president trump about overturning the election. here's one specific thing he told me. >> at the end of the day, wade fair election and i walked that line of integrity to make sure we would. i stayed the gap and i was not going to come off the truth. the truth is president trump came up short. >> you and secretary raffensperger are on the same page. now you're stepping down. he's running in an election against a trump ally, election officials who follow and don't lead, who will say there was fraud in george's election. how worried are you that people with those views end up being in charge of running our elections because either people like secretary raffensperger lose or people like you resign? >> i'll give secretary raffensperger all the credit in the world for what he did standing up to the former president, because that did take courage to do that. i think when it comes to what he feels happening in fulton county, thoug

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it's just all gotten out of hand. >> brad raffensperger spoke out on it as well earlier today.ack-a-mole and we continue to knock them down but we have 80 million twitter followers versus our office with maybe 40,000 on a good day. it's tough to win that battle. >> tim, he's speaking to the logistical hurdles of combatting disinformation on tucker carlson or from donald trump. saying that the georgia secretary of state's office with the measly 40,000 followers doesn't stand a chance. >> there's no doubt about that. and look, these -- >> sorry. go, tim, then alexi. >> yeah, no, just briefly, sorry, alexi. look, there's -- it's a closed environment and i think this is really challenging, so if republican viewers -- if you think about it, if it's facebook, talk radio, if it's tucker's show, you know, they're reading the daily wire, they're reading breitbart. these ideas aren't challenged and they congeal. if you're someone reading all this and you say, oh, it's a false flag, the fbi was i didn't need january 6th. wait a minute, there were hundreds of people that stormed the capito

you know what stands out is that recording of donald trump on the phone with brad raffensperger trying to get the secretary of state in georgia find 11,780 votes that don't exist. and to me that's a far more clear indication of criminal activity, and i think had anyone else been recorded on that call, they would be under investigation by the justice department by now. >> we're going to be reporting more on that georgia investigation later in the hour because there is new developments in what may be the impanelling of a special grand jury there. but let me ask you about that. "the new york times" is reporting that there is obviously an overlap between your committee's investigation and the criminal investigation that's happening in atlanta. and that the committee's investigation has slowed the atlanta criminal investigation. what can you tell us about that. >> you know, i'm not aware of that, whether there is anything that our investigation is doing that would inhibit any other investigation, and i would hope that frankly there would be a synergistic relationship between -- to bring out

i want to dig deeper and bring in georgia secretary of state, brad raffensperger.s efforts to overturn the election there and he's the author of the new book, "integrity counts." well, it definitely should. secretary, thank you for joining us. this election lie has now become the republican brand. you've got candidates running on it everywhere. are you worried the damage has already been done? >> well, we're going through a very challenging cycle right now. and that's why i wrote the book, "integrity counts," to really go back and look at what happened in georgia on the 2020 race. at the end of the day, president trump came up short. but i do go through every single allegation that was raised, and i respond to it. and every allegation was never supported by the facts. and so we are facing falsehoods after falsehoods. and it was a rumor whackamole, and we continue to knock them down. but when you have 80 million twitter followers versus our office with maybe 40,000 on a good day, it's tough to win that battle. and that's why i wrote the book, to set the record strai

joining me now is that man, brad raffensperger, the current georgia secretary of state, and author of." secretary of state raffensperger, thank you very much for coming to "the sunday show." why did you feel it was important to write to this book now? >> set the record straight. it gives people all the facts and responds to all the misinformation and falsehoods that were spread last year after the election. i think it is a story that needs to be told and needs to be out there. it is very important, really for this history and also to make sure that we have stable and secure elections moving forward. >> you know, in your book early on you write i voted for president trump and i'm a life-long conservative republican with a proven voting record to match. i could not do what he asked because the numbers just weren't there. my job as secretary of state is to oversee fair and honest elections for everyone. was i disappointed in the outcome, yes. could i change the outcome, no. how does it make you feel that still to this day donald trump continues to push what we now call the big lie? >> we

. >>> i want to bring in now georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger, author of a book "integrityable now. thank you for being on the show. appreciate you joining us. obviously we've got some breaking news, we're bringing you in. i'm glad to have you with us. >> well, thank you. >> i would ask any reaction to the news that we just heard from "the washington post" on your front. >> no. i'm focused on what we do in georgia. and just brought my book. "integrity counts." goes through point by point about what happened the last election. so that's really -- i set the record straight. >> i'm going ask you about that. while we're on the subject of things that are happening in georgia, right, and investigations into the former president, there's obviously that fulton county da investigation of the former president's attempts to interfere with the election in your state. i know you told chuck todd last month, sir, that you would gladly participate or gladly talk to those folks. have you had an interview yet with them? have they requested to speak with you at this point? >> no, i haven't. b

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host: is that what you were referring to when you said brad raffensperger was part of a corrupt bargain? guest: he did not have the statutory authority to change the state law unchecking signatures on mail-in ballots. that can only happen through the legislature which is why the president and other people were saying that the legislature, who was unaware that the law changed, should come back and make sure the balance that did not follow state lower were kicked out. the reason there was confusion in these states is because there was one slate of delegates, a electors, sent to make the decision on the election, to validate joe's victory. the reason some legislative chambers were trying to get back into session is they did not realize the wrongdoing until they supported the slate of electors that favored joe biden. many realized if they had followed state laws, some of these states would have put up two slates of electors and that would have changed the dynamic in congress. the reason they did not do that is because laws around the electoral college do not contemplate this level of wrongd

joining us now is brad raffensperger, his new book, "integrity counts" is out today.u went through this firsthand. >> yes, i did. >> how do we begin to bring back integrity and trust? >>. >> well, i wrote the book and set the record straight that president trump did lose georgia. it's 250 pages of it. we have to look at what we have really done. we have been looking at voter suppression and voter fraud, the whole stolen election claim and never supported by the facts. i addressed it specifically because people need to understand that last year was a fair election. in 2018, stacey abrams lost the state of georgia and still has not conceded. these are facts that what do you do moving forward? >> if you don't do the hard work of digging into the details and coming into grips like that then how are you moving for ward? >> how do you move forward when someone you are arguing with, some of these trump supporters in your state, if they read your book, would they be moved? >> well, what they would understand is 28,000 voters in georgia did not vote for anyone. they voted a do

i talked about that just this morning with georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger. it was at our citizen by cnn. remember when the then-president told raffensperger this? >> so, look, all i want to do is this -- i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state. >> he just came right out and said, this is what i need. these are the votes i need. go get them. spoiler alert, though, they didn't. now raffensperger tells me why the big lie is alive and well even now a year later. 8 in 10 -- even still, 8 in 10 republicans believe in the big lie. that is what the polling shows. why is that, secretary? do you have an explanation for that? >> no. i do know that last year we were combatting rumors on a daily basis, which i document in my book. we had 40,000 twitter followers and president trump had 80 million, so it got out there, became an urban legend, an urban myth. much like going back to 2018. >> okay, so that's the politics. this has a little bit to do with politics. this is what i said when i talked about our courts and court

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joining us now is brad raffensperger, secretary of state in georgia, a republican and author of a newy counts" in he writes against donald trump's false claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election. mr. secretary, thank you so much for joining us. as a republican elected official, glenn youngkin, cnn projects, will be the next governor of virginia. he tried to keep some space between himself and former president donald trump. how instructive do you think that is or should it be to other republicans around the country? . >> well, i believe that governor-elect youngkin ran his own race, a positive race, aspirational. he understood we stood on our values. and he said parents have a key role in the raising of their children. congratulations. he did a tremendous job. it is reaganism rebranded for 20th. >> what about trump, though, the idea of putting space between yourself and the former president and the republican candidate. >> mr. youngkin was a successful businessman. he can bring everyone together. a great message and model for moving forward as republicans. ronald reagan upbrought forw

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. >> brad raffensperger, georgia's secretary of state, a conservative republican who supported trumpt with democrats on election issues ordered a state hand count. that habitat hand count confirmed there was no widespread fraud involved with the machine count. >> no, we never saw enough fraud that would have turned the results of the election. we have about 250 investigations going on. if you look at it, it's onesies, twossy twosies is, a couple of people doing something, but never added up to 12,000 votes. >> still then president trump a doing something, but never added up to 12,000 votes. >> still then a couple of peopl doing something, but never added up to 12,000 votes. >> still then president trump , doing something, but never added up to 12,000 votes. >> still then a couple of peop doing something, but never added up to 12,000 votes. >> still then president trump hate tweeted about him and he and his wife were threatened. >> people were threatening her, and sending her sexualized threats. those kind of sbemsz. >> bill gates got threats too. so did commissioner al schmidt who te

one thing i kind of deconstruct what happened where that phone call with secretary of state brad raffensperger how the call came about, if you recall, it was a saturday. it came right after raffensperger had appeared on a fox television show. he got -- there was a call by molly michael, the personal secretary to the president, to the general press line at the secretary of state's office in georgia. eventually, raffensperger's deputy got ahold of meadows and wanted to know, is this a real call you left on a voicemail? meadows was quite upset. meadows said, "we've been trying to reach out to you 18 different times, and you've ignored our inquiries." what they realized, they said "what are you talking about?" raffensperger himself had been receiving text messages from a gmail account, mark meadows' gmail account, that he thought was certainly a prank. number had been put out on the internet. getting all kinds of prank calls. mark meadows was reaching out to a top official in georgia on a private gmail account. what else was going on where his private gmail account? he was at the intersection of e

attorney general, in georgia, congressman jodie heist running for secretary of state to throw out brad raffenspergerpeople are big lie supporters right there. what would happen if you got rid of the people who were there before and replaced them with those who buy into the big lie? >> well, good morning. and it is incredibly alarming. in fact, in every swing state where we have a secretary of state race there is someone who has either spread the big lie or was at the insurrection running to do oversee elections. and i think it was put best by the washington post over the weekend, it is like having someone who is an arsonist oversee the fire department. we need election administrators who believe in the will of the people, who believe in democracy, and if not, you could see secretaries of state or election officials facilitate insider threats, that's what we just saw in colorado earlier in the year in western colorado. you could see the chief election administrator pushing out this information and in fact, you know, what i think the worst case scenario is if there is another january 6th, if there is

. >> to that point, from a legal perspective, brad raffensperger, the secretary of state of georgia sayscted by the committee so they want to focus on january 6th, the main thing that day, but to the point about -- if you were building an investigation as a lawyer, building your investigation, what would his value be? obviously he took the phone call from trump saying i need you to find me some votes. >> he was subject to the intense political pressure from the president and he has information to provide that indicates that the president really was trying to undo the rightful outcome of the election so bad rafns pittsburghy is an important fact witness who can talk about the actual efforts that the president was engaged in, but also this point about the court looking at the specific types of categories of documents, that's actually temp with the way executive privilege normally is negotiateled. it's normally a negotiation over particular documents or categories of documents, so with the courts as a body of government normally wanting the executive branch and the congressional branch to d

you've written that brad raffensperger is doomed, for example, for standing in trump's way last time. how do you see this reshaping the party? >> yeah, i mean, it's a really big thing, they have this idea that they're going to replace and kick out of the party people who go against trump here is really dangerous for a democratic republic going forward. if you have that situation where people cannot honestly do their jobs and accurately reflect the count and are going to lose their jobs and future elections because they went against trump, that's a really scary place. more broadly, if you look at all of the threats that election officials have faced after this. reuters has done some great reporting on this recently about all of these threats that were coming into elections officials, and that's what you see in all of these january 6th cases. you have a bunch of people who honestly believe that the election was stolen, and this was, you know, in their minds and in trump's mind, as we saw in that interview, a justifiable response to what they saw as a stolen election. and, you know, if t

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download the ning us from atlanta this morning is georgia, brad raffensperger. he has held that position since 2019. welcome to washington journal. guest: good morning. host: let me start with your background. you are a businessman, a structural engineer by trade. you own your own businesses. what first got you into georgia state politics? guest: i ran for city council. i could do that part-time and run my business. i was there for 3.5 years and i ran for an open seat in the statehouse and i served for two terms. host:

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attacking election officials in georgia who stood up for the truth, like secretary of state brad raffensperger. miller tweeted just days before the insurrection -- three days, in fact -- all the officials running georgia's elections are trash. potus won the state. well, there's class for you. look. all of this stuff is untrue. they're lies. but they are the lies that sparked thousands of people to show up outside the capitol on january 6th. and these lies are the reason that trump's supporters stormed the capitol in which five people were left dead, including officer brian sicknick. and now, the question is will these six individuals actually abide by the subpoena and testify? i mean, up until now, obviously, this committee has had trouble -- trouble getting trump's allies to cooperate. i mean, just on friday, jeffrey clark showed up, right? the former-justice department official who had tried to help trump overturn the election showed up and that was about it. completely stonewalled the committee. and of course, there is steev bannon who defied a subpoena from the committee. the house has vot

he was hoping that people like that guy in georgia, brad raffensperger, who he called up and said i hope you can find me some more votes. can you imagine that? i mean that alone, how is that not a crime? and mr. raffensperger and some other republicans with integrity around the country who work on elections said, no, we can't do that. this is america. we can't find votes. but what he's doing now is behind the scenes he's spent all his time since he's lost putting people in place who will find the votes. that's what's so disturbing because next time that happens i think they are going to find the votes. he is purging the republican party of people like that, people who -- i think only ten republicans voted for his impeachment. two of them are already gone because they see that they cannot win an election. he will primary them. he will destroy their reputations. and by the time we have the next election i bet you none of them are running. liz cheney certainly is not going to win that election in wyoming. and so the republican party as much as i keep hearing about, oh, trump he's not as rel

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as you may remember, trump made this plea to the georgia secretary of state, brad raffensperger. >> so votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state. >> you know, he just wants to find them. raffensperger saying this week he's willing to testify and that he's already cooperating with the atlanta d.a.'s inquiry. >> we sent documents as requested and that's really because you had to follow the law, follow the constitution, and they have constitutional authority to convene a grand jury. >> and that is just one of several sources of legal jeopardy for trump on both sides of the atlantic. in manhattan, a second grand jury has been impanelled to look into the trump organization. the westchester county scrutinizing the finances of his golf course there. and a similar investigation taking place overseas in scotland. all of this on top of the congressional inquiry into january 6th. joining me now, msnbc contributor and former watergate prosecutor jill wine-banks. which of his many problems is his biggest problem? >> his biggest problem is that there are so many of them, and it

phone calls he was making, and of course we all heard the unfortunate 60-plus minute call with brad raffenspergerare shredding ballots. in my opinion, you have out of state voters. they voted in georgia, but they were from out of state. >> it was just a complete disaster and an embarrassment to anybody who cares about democracy. >> after repeating a litany of false allegations, trump said he was, quote, notifying georgia secretary of state raffensperger that in his view, the secretary was breaking the law by ignoring his false conspiracy theories. >> you're not reporting it. that's a criminal -- that's a criminal offense. and you know, you can't let that happen. that's a big risk to you. >> did you feel like he was threatening you? >> i think you could take that as a form of pressure. >> of everything he said to you on the call, what sticks with you the most? >> well, he continually circled back on well, all i need is -- >> i just want to find 11,780 votes. >> we wanted us to go out and somehow find additional votes. we had all the ballots. there were no more ballots we could add, and all those h

for instance, in georgia some of the power that used to belong to secretary of state brad raffenspergerupholding the rule of law, now lies with the republican-controlled state legislature. >> a number of states have tried to take running of elections away from professionals and giving it to politicians. so in state legislatures like georgia give power to the state legislature to potentially overturn results, that's very worrisome. >> this past year there has been no better example of a politicized counting process than the so-called audit of ballots in maricopa county, arizona. this past spring and summer by a group calling themselves the cyber ninjas. >> they have no experience at all in election audits. they're headed by doug logan who has been in that trump orbit ever since the election. >> people saw images of these cyber ninjas looking at ballots through ultraviolet lights. what were they looking for with the ultraviolet light in the ballot box? >> they were actually looking for bamboo on the ballots because there was one of these conspiracy theories that thousands of ballots had b