. >> the best election was an absolute disaster under the leadership of brad raffensperger, and it'shat reason, i'm leaving a very safe congressional district to take on one that i believe is the worst secretary of state, perhaps in our nation. >> brad raffensperger, got to take 30 seconds to answer that? >> well, jody hice is lying. >> today, we learned through a court filing that georgia republican congressman jody hice, you see him there in that debate, who lost the primary challenge to brad raffensperger was also subpoenaed by that same fulton county grand jury. congressman hice, you may recall, deemed trump's full endorsement to replace raffensperger as secretary of state, because raffensperger refused to manufacture the votes to overturn georgia election. and now, just like senator graham, hice is trying to fight the subpoena. with me now, tamar hallerman, a reporter from the atlanta georgia constitution, and she's been the go-to reporter on all the latest developments coming from the fulton county special grand jury. welcome back, good to have you on the program. first of all,

urging him to change the results of the election. >> i want to talk to brad raffensperger.is piece of [ bleep ] for not [ bleep ] doing the right thing. this election was [ bleep ] stolen. >> we could feel the angst and hate building in the air over nothing, over a miraj, over a shiny object to deflect from the fact that donald trump had lost the election fair and squarely. >> you could have very easily kept your mouth shut, not said anything, gone along. was all of this worth it, putting it all on the line for the truth? >> the answer is absolutely it was worth it. >> the lieutenant governor found himself amongst the few willing to speak the truth, but he was not truth but he was not alone. disgusted by threats from misled trump supporters. gabe sterling also became a vocal critic of the publiclize. >> i remember we had a warehouse manager at our center for elections taking the trash out, a young guy, working for few years and all of these people swarming around him, you're going to prison, he's just a warehouse guy. >> good afternoon. >> on december 1st, 2020, sterling ga

witnesses include rusty bowers, brad raffensperger and a former election worker who became the target of a voter fraud conspiracy theory. >> they select committee to investigate the january 6th attack on the united states capitol will be in order. without objection, the chair is authorized to declare they committee in recess at any point. pursuing the house deposition authority regulation ten, the chair announces the committees approval to release the deposition material presented in today's hearing. good afternoon. in our last hearing we told this story of a scheme driven by donald trump to pressure former vice president mike pence to illegally overturn the election results. we showed that when the pressure campaign failed and mike prints failed his constitutional obligations donald trump turned a violent mob loose on him. he showed that the mob came within roughly 40 feet of the vice president. today we will show what happened to mike pence was not an isolated part of donald trump's scheme to overturn the election. in fact, pressuring public servants into betraying their oaths was a

graham asked whether brad raffensperger, the secretary of state had the power to toss all mail ballots in counties found to have higher rates of non-matching signatures. raffensperger said he was stunned that graham appeared to suggest he find a way to toss legally-cast ballots. it sure looked like he was wanting to go down that road, said raffensperger. in your mind, nick, when you think about what lipid sigh graham did, is it as obvious to you as it is to his lawyers that he's not a target, that he's simply a witness? >> i wouldn't say merely a witness. he's got to be a subjects of this investigation. he's got to be somebody that the grand jury is going to be looking at. was he part of trump's scheme to basically steal the vote in georgia? this is the one case where prosecutors have really got the goods on trump. this is where they've got him on tapes, two tapes. they've got rudy giuliani on tape. this is unlike the case you mentioned before, the tax case in new york, where you had no real witness against donald trump or possibility of the former comptroller maybe flipping. it's all

georgia focused hearing with brad raffensperger, who we know is a witness in the grand jury, in georgiae get a flood of subpoenas for that grand jury including four united states senator, lindsey graham. what is, what did you see in that -- did you see a pattern and those subpoenas that went out today? >> yes. the fulton county district attorney, hats off to her, it's pursuing this very aggressively. the fake elector plot, the attempt to interfere with the secretary of state's office, with the secretary of state in particular. the calls, the urging, the false claims of fraud, the false presentation about that video that's hook place at the state farm arena, suggesting a corruption that wasn't there. and i have to think that it was very telling for the district attorney's office in fulton county to watch our hearing and see the attorney general bill barr, deputy attorney general, and others, talk about how they investigated this. how it was complete nonsense, and they told the president this. and so that demonstrates the president and his campaign's knowledge that what they were pushing

the phone call between former president trump and brad raffensperger is on tape. rudy giuliani's testimony is there. >>> the white house is responding to an emotional plea from britney griner to bring her home. she was arrested in january in russia. more on the growing pressure for president biden to intervene in her case. >> in britney griner's emotional handwritten letter, she pleads with president biden to bring her home, writing, as i sit here in a russian prison alone with my thoughts and without the protection of my wife, family, friends or any accomplishments, i'm terrified i might be here forever. griner's wife reacting to her fear. >> it breaks my heart when i hear her say that. she's probably the strongest person that i know, so she doesn't say words like that lightly. >> the two-time olympic gold medalist has been jailed for 4 1/2 months after russian authorities say they found vape cartridges with cannabis oil in her luggage. she faces a ten year sentence if convicted of drug smuggling. and 99% of those in russian courts are conning -- convicted. grine

[ laughter ] all "simpsons" references aside, that's the former president asking brad raffensperger tond raffensperger has still not ruled out voting for trump in 2024. brad, what's your motto? "fool me once, and we're off to a good start"? [ laughter ] how are these hearings supposed to change people's minds when they can't even change the minds of people in the hearing i'm not -- i'll tell you i'll tell you who's not gonna vote for trump in 2024 lady ruby. you don't get two chances with anybody named lady ruby. you're lucky if lady ruby gives you one chance [ laughter ] this has been whatever it was. ♪ >> this has been "hey, what the hell i feel like i'm going crazy. [ cheers and applause >> we'll be right back with maya rudolph, everybody! [ cheers and applause ♪ ♪♪ ♪ who break it, ♪ ♪ pound it, ♪ [scraping] ♪ and drag it all around ♪ ♪ who twist it, and turn it, ♪ ♪ you cannot tear it down ♪ ♪ crush it, and kick it, ♪ ♪ when you can never win ♪ ♪ well i know you can't lick it ♪ [splashing] ♪ i make you give in ♪ ♪ [shattering] ♪ ♪ cause every minute of every hour you'll be shaken ♪

. >> up next, georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger and the chief elections operations officer gabriel sterling talks about president trump, and it's just over half had an hour. [inaudible conversations] . >> inventory ladies and gentlemen, please welcome fredrico of cnn, brad raffensperger and gabriel sterling. >> hi, this is great to be here, it's like the academy awards for elections officials and like i have the oscar winners here. >> as we've discussed it's been an extraordinary two years, not just talking about the aftermath of the 2020 election and the attack on the capitol, but in 2020 you all were preparing to conduct an election in the middle of a once in a century pandemic. and i want to take us back a little bit to that and what you all did to prepare for 2020 and how it went. just a few minutes. >> well, i'll start off, first of all, you have to understand that when i took office in january, 2019, we had passed-- we passed a bill that allowed us to get new voting machines and then there was a mad dash to get those in place, all 159 counties, 2500 precincts, get tha

you're writing that the secretary of state, brad raffensperger, several of his deputies, and attorney chris carr have already testified before the grand jury. governor brian kemp, who rebuffed pressure from trump to call a special session of the state legislature to reverse the election results, is also slated to give a video statement later this month. talk about what they will hear from witnesses like raffensperger and his deputies. >> yeah, we're seeing a clear split. obviously, some republicans are more than happy to testify. governor kemp is going to give video testimony on july 21st. others like lieutenant governor jeff duncan, who's a republican, and several former state lawmakers are trying to fight their testimony. we'll see how that plays out, but they'll be asked a number of questions. we're not exactly sure what the process will be. the judge right now is working out basically a framework for what questions they can be asked and what they might not be asked. but in general, we're going to hear more about what the grand jury is narrowing in on as some of these details leak

. >>, georgia's secretary of state brad raffensperger and the chief elections officer talking about former president trump's efforts to convince them to overturn the state parched between 20 election results. this is part of an net hosted by the center. it is just over half an hour. the chief elections operations officer gabriel sterling talks about president trump, and it's just over half had an hour. [inaudible conversations] . >> inventory ladies and gentlemen, please welcome fredrico of cnn, brad raffensperger and gabriel sterling. >> hi, this is great to be here, it's like the academy awards for elections officials and like i have the oscar winners here. >> as we've discussed it's been an extraordinary two years, not just talking about the aftermath of the 2020 election and the attack on the capitol, but in 2020 you all were preparing to conduct an election in the middle of a once in a century pandemic. and i want to take us back a little bit to that and what you all did to prepare for 2020 and how it went. just a few minutes. >> well, i'll start off, first of all, you have to underst

looking into a november 2020 phone call senator graham made to georgia's secretary of state brad raffenspergerbout whether he had the power to reject certain absentee ballots, which raffensperger interpreted as a suggestion to toss out legally cast votes. graham denied that is what he was trying to do, calling the allegations ridiculous. willis,. john, rudy giuliani, we should add as well, actually testified and spoke to the georgia state legislature a number of times around this, just pedaling beastie monk, false claims about voter fraud in the state of georgia. the da in that state, the da in fulton county, they've got a lot to work with here. talk you don't call georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger because you're going to get in trouble if you do. there's been so much focus on the call to former president trump to the georgia secretary of state, asking him to find the specific number of votes needed to flip the results in that state, give him the victory as opposed to joe biden . now, this call, which we did not know he resisted in the past has come under intense scrutiny, that gra

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witness, meaning late lindsey graham, made at least two telephone calls from secretary state brad raffenspergerthe staff, following the 2020 election in georgia. during the telephone calls, secretary raffensperger on the staff of reexamining certain absence ballots in georgia, an order to explore the possibility of a more favorable outcome for former president donald trump. what does the subpoena require of senator graham? >> well it requires him to show up and fulton county georgia, in downtown atlanta on july 12th. him and six other folks close allies of the former president, have been requested to appear that day. it's unclear exactly how many of them will show up, or if any will try to fight the subpoenas by citing some form of immunity, attorney-client privilege for some of the trump campaign lawyers. but perhaps there is a potential that senator graham will try to incite some legislative immunity. the u.s. constitution, speech and debate clause, protect some members from talking about their legislative duty, and some other motivations behind their committee work. the base on the floor, bu

we've seen the attorney general of the state, obviously brad raffensperger, a number of state lawmakersays she will halt this investigation if it gets too close to the 2022 election, that gives us a sense that this could still be going on through the fall. she said she won't end it pre maturing just to cooperate with an election date. so we don't know exactly when this is going to wrap up but it certainly does feel like she is reaching a crescendo of the people especially here in the governor, he is a very big witness, they've scheduled it videotaped testimony to work with his schedule but he is absolutely the highest ranking official we have seen so far and it's in a process of getting sort of to the higher up officials and then the closest to former president president donald trump. >> john, if charges are brought here, as you correctly note we're talking about georgia law, georgia charges, state charges, what would the likelihood of conviction be? our ellie honing points out it's a high bar and there are lot of steps in between charges and ultimate conviction, including perhaps tryin

most notably, the georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger just days after the election.nsperger told the washington post that he was stunned that during a conversation, senator graham had appeared to suggest that he find a way to toss legally cast ballots. in public, senator graham has brushed that call off as nothing more than him being interested in election security. >> why is the senator from south carolina calling the secretary of state of georgia, anyway? >> because the future of the country hangs in the balance. i have talked doug in arizona, i have talked to the people in nevada, you've week we've got contest all of the nation. >> can you clarify this conversation that you had the secretary of state in georgia, did you or did you not ask him to throw out ballots? >> no, that's ridiculous. i talk to him how to verify signatures. >> as much as i wish it were not the case, my colleague interviewing senator graham, garrett hague, does not have subpoena power. there's a big difference how much of a story you might share with a reporter and how much of a stare you have

when it came to the phone call to brad raffensperger, when it came to the pressure campaign that was put on the governor of georgia, what do you make of what we just heard from the former president? >> i, ghana think we see donald trump just trying to discredit those people that are in power. trying to undermine their credibility in an effort to push his own narrative. but i think that -- it's gonna get to the bottom of this. she's putting everybody in the grand jury who was involved in this, those facts will ultimately prevail over whatever fiction donald trump is peddling. >> can you tell me about your thoughts on steve bannon, i'm fascinated to hear, what do you think the motive is behind donald trump writing this letter saying, okay, i'm no longer claiming executive privilege, even though that doesn't exist when that comes to steve mott bannon -- to testify? >> this is a last-minute effort in my view, a gimmick to create a defense for steve bannon at his trial. i think he's trying to model and confuse the jury by suggesting that the only reason that steve bannon refused to testif

brad raffensperger has already given his account of what happened to fulton county district, zbra grand jury, on the record, he spoke for five hours about the infamous phone call with president trump and presumably his interactions with the south carolina senator as well, it is a fairly thorough investigation, i'm sure they got to the point about senator lindsey graham. so what about senator lindsey graham of south carolina? well, he was among seven trump allies subpoenaed yesterday by that same district attorney, you might think that because of senator graham's supposed interest in the election integrity, he would be very interested in cooperating with the district attorney willis' investigation in the efforts to overturn the 2020 election in georgia, but today, senator graham and his lawyer said he will not comply. they said the investigation is a quote fishing expedition and that senator graham plans to go to court and challenge the subpoena. today my colleague blayne alexander got an exclusive interview with the district attorney and got her response on what she will do with witness

subpoenaed attorney claude michelle who was on the infamous call asking secretary of state brad raffenspergero find extra votes for him. >> why wouldn't you want to find the right answer, brad, instead of keep saying the numbers are right? so, look, you can get together -- and, brad, we just want the truth, it's simple. the truth, the real truth is i won by 400,000 votes at least. so what are we going to did here i only need 11,000 votes fellows, i need 11,000 votes, give me a break. >> reporter: and senator graham was subpoenaed for a call of his own where he asked raffensperger to re-examine absentee ballots and announcing a multistate coordinated campaign to influence the results of the election in georgia and elsewhere. graham has been ordered to testify july 12th, the same day as the next january 6 committee hearing. mr. trump, giuliani and graham have all denied any wrongdoing >> we'll see what will be revealed in this investigation brie, thank you. >>> one of the republicans on the january 6 committee is releasing chilling audio of threats left on his voul mail at his capitol hill offi

. >> up next, georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger and the chief elections operations officer gabriel sterling talks about president trump, and it's just over half had an hour. [inaudible conversations] . >> inventory ladies and gentlemen, please welcome fredrico of cnn, brad

trying to find efforts there because the phone call he made to georgia's secretary of state, brad raffenspergeruld be tossed out. donald trump calling raffensperger is at the heart of this investigation. now the scope has broadened and we're hearing about this alternate set of electors, which was part of the trump world plan, all of those memos that were being thrown around the white house in the days and weeks after the election to try to get an alternate set of electors seated for the number of battleground states, with the plan being that come january 6th, in those battleground states, republicans could point out, we've got some electors that say biden won, and some that say trump won. therefore, we should toss them out and in that case donald trump would get re-elected and mike pence would certify that. it was farcical at best, but still potentially criminal. >> so senator lindsey graham has reversed course and will cooperate with the subpoena by the fulton county grand jury. as part of the agreement, senator graham won't waive his ability to file a potential future challenge. the court fil

secretary of state brad raffensperger and shea moss testified along with russell wesley bowers, a republican member of arizona state house. the fifth hearing featured three former justice department officials. the june 28 hearing had testimony from cassidy hutchinson, a former aide to president trump chief of staff mark meadows. stephen errors who pled nolte to charges of -- pled guilty to charges of reaching the capital. sarah matthews a former white house press aide. both resigned on january 6 following the events of the capital. this is the cannon house office elting caucus room where all hearings have been held. we will watch as the committee gets settled for two nights hearing. first, a quick reminder that the january 6 committee hearings and all c-span programming is brought to you as a public service by these television companies including comcast, charter and talks. c-span is the only place for gavel to gavel coverage free from bias or commentary. after this, we will want to hear from you. we will hear if you have been watching the january 6 hearings, if any evidence has compelled yo

during that news conference, one of the comments he made was that the wife of secretary of state brad raffensperger was receiving threats. and i remember hearing that and thinking, wait a second, that is not normal. as you all know, when you are in public service, we know that as public servants you can face threats. but to me, i felt like the wife of a public servant receiving sexualized threats, that does not seem right in a democracy, over baseless election fraud claims. and so, i wanted to get to the bottom of that. our colleagues began talking with officials in georgia. they were gracious enough where they opened up and shared those threats. for a lot of these election officials, this is deeply personal. it affects their safety, the safety of their families. we were very careful and sensitive to that because the last thing he want to do with this type of reporting is for it to cause another round of threats. obviously what they have already been through is horrific. we felt it was important to bring justice and awareness to this issue because in trisha's case, she was receiving parts months af

that phone call that the former president made to brad raffensperger, you know, is just chock full of problems. i just can't imagine that any elected official who would have made a similar call seeking to seek votes, that had they done that, i suspect they would be under serious federal and state investigation. so lindsey graham, i don't see any point for my member now. what's the point of being loyal to donald trump? look what it's gotten all these other folks. they've gotten thrown under the bus. the loyalty hasn't been reciprocated by the president. my advice to my friend lindsey graham, comply with the subpoena. you're not a target. just speak the truth. >> honesty is the best policy, as they say. thank you very much. still ahead, we'll have much more on the new details emerging now about the highland park july fourth parade mass shooting and what the gunman is now telling investigators about his deadly r rampage. >>> plus, a disturbing new report in the uvalde school shooting and a missed chance to take out the gunman before he even entntered the building. psoriatic arthritis, ma

of the day, he's going to get the witnesses she wants, but he admits to have made a call to brad raffenspergerentitled to know what was in the call and ultimately he will lose that battle. >> like the 1/6 committee, a lot of people have participated and a lot of republicans who were on the receiving end and it just makes me think in the same way that liz cheney is able to share with her colleagues on the committee the deep, dark, underbelly of the house republican caucus because she was in it once, brad raffensperger and gabe sterling and others cooperated with bonnie willis in her criminal probe have likely already shared a lot of information. lindsay graham isn't just going to lose. lindsay graham who will probably face a prosecutor who already knows a whole lot. >> yes. in fact, the thing about the lindsay graham call and can you find the 12,000 votes which echoes the donald trump call is it does speak to the state of mind. they knew that they had lost the election and they weren't calling to say can you find the fraud? canlose. has to remind everybody the republican party was once the part

on the hand, brad raffensperger has gone on record as saying that these phone calls from lindsey grahamto suggest that i would, i should try to toss out legally cast ballots, as a prosecutor, i hear that and i think, lindsay has a self incrimination right there, their arguments on both sides of that. >> wow. i mean, it's a sitting senator claim's fifth amendment right here, which is his right, that would be pretty amazing. look, you covered congress for the new york times. how seriously are republicans on the hill, particularly senator graham, taking this fulton county da investigation? >> i think this is the most serious and furthest along in the criminal investigations into what happened, on january 6th. they seem very far along, several steps ahead of where the justice department is, from what i can tell. so i think that there is a concern on capitol hill about where this is going, about how high this will reach. you know, senator graham's attorneys claim, he's just a witness here. he has nothing to worry about. but the fact that they don't want him to go in and testify, the fact tha

we know, lawrence, as you may remember, he reached out to brad raffensperger himself shortly after the election before donald trump reached out to profit -- we don't know what other conversations lindsey graham may have had with any other officials in georgia. let's remember, lindsey graham is a senator from south carolina. he is not a senator from georgia. it is unclear why he would be reaching out to the georgia secretary of state, if anything other than simply working with donald trump to try to overturn the results in the georgia election. >> when he tries to argue, and his lawyers tried to argue, this is just the regular course of business for senator graham. the first question would be, have you ever done it before in your life? when you are a member of the house of representatives, did you make that phone call, or a phone call like it when you are a senator? have you ever made a phone call like it before? senator jordan, with the grand jury presumably has's testimony from the secretary of state, and the secretary of state's staff about what's lindsey graham said to them. that gr

calling brad raffensperger. he was directly involved with attempts to overturn this election, now he appears to be attempting to influence the testimony of witnesses. again, i don't know with the doj is going to do. boy this really smells to high heaven! >> i'm glad you said that, that's a reaction for most people. we said, there we go charlie what do you think? people are like -- man, again! this guy! like what's! >> i don't -- look, i just know, the basic smell test. anybody else has done this sort of thing. i guarantee, to the department of justice would be crawling up their backside. and they would be all lawyered up, and they would be probably awaiting indictment right now. but this guy, i guess he's a former president. he seems he has a lot of -- we will see if that lasts. >> doug? no? >> there was no crime committed here yet. look, it does smell to high heaven. there's no question about that. in, historically, donald trump has always been involved in the day today. he would reach out, he would do things,

people we nevada -- the fact that brad raffensperger is a household name is insane.ortant in 2024 as he was in 2020. >> seeing the races play out is the way that democrats handle it, meddling in the primaries trying to prop up the candidates because they think they can beat them in the general election. look what was run in maryland. >> meet dan cox. donald trump's hand picked candidate. he worked with trump trying to prove the last election was a fraud. he will protect the second amendment at all costs. >> larry hogan said the democrats are playing with fire. are they? >> i think we need to acknowledge a clear strategy. not only in maryland but across races in soefrl other states. josh shapiro for doug mastriano in pennsylvania, for example. trying to get the more extreme candidate in the general. of course it raises the questions about the -- them playing with fire and the dangers. if the democrats say that drk is under attack how can go ahead and prop the candidates up? >> it is a huge risk. >> it is not only a risk. we also know that democrats, their argument is

i'm talking about brad raffensperger.people really do have standing to file suits against trump. that should obviously worry him in addition to the criminal cases that may arise from this trial. >> all right, jon jones, team omar, and fernanda money, thank you so much for joining us this evening. our saturday night panel. coming up, what happens when a unitarian, a buddhist, and a jew all joined forces. we'll tell you about that. jew all joined forces. jew all joined forces. we'lontrol... that can scale across all your clouds... we got that right? yeah, we got that. l it's easier to be an innovator. so you can do more incredible things. [whistling] yeah, let's redo the basement. so you can do more incredible things. hello home movie theater. (laughs) spare bedroom. use the u.s. bank mobile app to apply for a home improvement loan. it's easy! wonderful alex! hey, that's what u.s. bank is for. anything else? how about a loan for a bigger car? our family is growing. awe. yeah, my brother's moving in with his five dogs. oh...

is investigating, a november 2020 phone call that graham made to georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger power to reject certain absentee ballots, which raffensperger interpreted as a suggestion to toss out legally cast votes. graham denied that's what he was trying to do, calling the allegation, quote, ridiculous. joining us now national correspondent for the washington post matt brown. welcome to the show. let's talk about how these investigations differ from what the january 6th committee is trying to do and what's our sense of it, those targeted by subpoenas yesterday, graham, giuliani, et cetera, do we have any anticipation they will comply? >> yeah, that's a really good question on if they're actually going to cooperate with these. they have until mid july to come to the court before they're in contempt of the body. it's really interesting this investigation that we're seeing down here in fulton county where the grand jury has been called since january has been doing a lot of investigative work here to really pull together potentially the case for criminal charges here or recommend

it would tie together everything that happened, telling brad raffensperger 11,000 votes i need.aud, leave the rest to me. acts that don't turn on whether there's a dispute about the election. there's no defense to that kind of conduct. we think of an over arching scheme to tie together all the evidence, it shows someone who is prepared to put their own interests above that of the country, democracy, ultimately the safety of their vice president, members of the congress, the police defending them and everyone else. that is a powerful narrative and there are many criminal statutes that are prosecuted every single day. i've said this and i've said this to you, i've had clients prosecuted on a fraction of this evidence. is the question, did he commit a crime? i would think there is overwhelming evidence. could he be prosecuted? i think the answer is absolutely yes. then the question is, should he be prosecuted. i would come back to the through line. he got away with it in the first impeachment. the day after muller testified he called the ukrainian president and then engaged in this

graham had two phone calls with brad raffensperger, they want to ask him about that, and it does showhere were multiple prongs of people in congress and in the trump campaign apparatus trying to push these bogus claims and use their ties as elected officials to influence potentially other elected officials. >> greg, who else does the grand jury want to hear from and what's next for them? >> well, john eastman, cleveland mitchell, jenna ellis, also some figures involved in the trump campaign's efforts to push forward the state, phony sham elect tors in georgia and other states. we have more indications the grand jury is looking at that attempt to put those alternate slate of lectors forward. the big question is whether they will end up subpoenaing donald trump himself. willis said she has not ruled that out but also said she's focused on these subpoenas for the time being. >> greg and ali, thank you for being with me. both authors of fantastic books by the way. thanks. >>> up next, mississippi's only abortion clinic is slated to shut down tomorrow as legal challenges to abortion, conti

of what this scheme was in georgia, and that call you played at the beginning with him with brad raffensperger. >> any moment, donald trump will announce his candidacy in the 2014 election but this case, legal experts point as the one that holds the most legal jeopardy for him and his allies. how could that case impact the decision to run in his announcement? >> yeah, well, there's a lot and fani willis would not have pursued this if there wasn't a lot there but his political support. are republicans just exhausted of this series of exposures, of scandals, would they like to change the subject, turn the page? we hear that from some republicans down here in georgia. they may be looking for a fresh start. donald trump might use his announcement to distract from this, but i think we're starting to see some real fatigue from republicans down here in georgia ready to change the subject as well. >> you mentioned the testimony from brian kemp. reelection. i can't imagine this helps him in the bid. sara, i wanted to get your reaction to the new reporting that former white house counsel pat cipollone b

he's a material fact witness because of the calls he made to secretary of state brad raffensperger.ed to use political bluster to get out of it. >> senators. thank you both very much. >>> still ahead, the biden administration offers a tine, tiny glimmer of hope and reproductive care as many we'll look at more separation between church and state. we'll take a look at that look . worth is watching your employees grow with it. ♪ ♪ for adults with generalized myasthenia gravis who are positive for acetylcholine receptor antibodies, it may feel like the world is moving without you. but the picture is changing, with vyvgart. in a clinical trial, participants achieved improved daily abilities with vyvgart added to their current treatment. and vyvgart helped clinical trial participants achieve reduced muscle weakness. vyvgart may increase the risk of infection. in a clinical study, the most common infections were urinary tract and respiratory tract infections. tell your doctor if you have a history of infections or if you have symptoms of an infection. vyvgart can cause allergic reactions.

testify about phone calls he allegedly made in november 2020 to georgia secretary of state brad raffenspergerpublican president trump was later pressed to, quote, find the votes, just enough necessary for him to claim victory in the state. georgia lieutenant governor jeff duncan testified before the fulton county grand jury and he joins me now. thank you for taking the time this morning. >> absolutely. >> first on graham's refusal here, you and other lawmakers also challenged the subpoena in court, but did testify under a more limited scope. i wonder, should graham testify to the grand jury? >> well, that's going to be up to the attorneys and the judge and the whole process. our objection initially was just to make sure we clarified what the legislative privilege actually meant in the judge's eyes. earlier this week, i did continue to cooperate with the grand jury. i've been pretty vocal within hours of donald trump saying there was some sort of rigged election. i've been at this two years now. i've written a book and trying to keep my party on its feet. >> i am aware. and you've done so on t

calls to people, you know, in georgia we saw him talk about that many times, you know, calling brad raffensperger. he was directly involved with attempts to overturn this election, and now he appears to be attempting to, you know, influence the testimony of witnesses. and, again, i don't know what the doj is going to do, but, boy, this really smells to high heaven that he is -- >> i'm glad you said that because that's a reaction from most people. we sit here and go, charlie, what do you think, and people are like, man, again with this guy. this guy, what? >> i don't -- look, i just use the basic smell test. has anybody else done this sort of thing i'd guarantee you the department of justice would be crawling up their backside, and they'd be all lawyered up and probably awaiting indictment right now. this guy i guess he's a former president and seems like he's teflon in many cases. we'll see if that lasts. >> uh-oh, doug. what was that? no? >> there was no crime committed here yet. i mean, look, it does smell to high heaven. there's no question about that, and historically donald trump has always

officials in arizona and nevada, and georgia, where he spoke directly to the secretary of state brad raffenspergeraham is not subject to a subpoena from the fulton county district attorney, who empaneled a special grand jury to investigate and i quote, coordinated attempts to unlawfully alter the outcome of the 2020 election in georgia. now there is a fair amount of public evidence interference, most notoriously of course, the january phone call where trump called raffensperger and asked him to find the 11,780 votes trump needed to win georgia. last week, graham's attorneys slammed the subpoena saying quote, this is all politics, fulton county is engaged in a fishing expedition and working in concert with the january six committee. amazingly, that statement was released at the very same moment that nbc news correspondent, blame alexander, was actually interviewing fulton county da, fani wellness, she got to respond senator graham's accusations and we'll time. >> inaccurate, estimation. it's someone who doesn't understand the seriousness of what we are doing. i hope they don't come and testify not

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the probe after "the washington post" reported trump had called georgia's secretary of state brad raffensperger on january 2, 2021, and urged him to "find 11,780 votes." meanwhile, the house january 6 committee has announced it will hold its next hearing on tuesday at 10:00 a.m. , july 12 the hearing is expected to look in part at the far-right groups who attacked thcapitol at the urging of trump. democracy now! will livestream that july 12 hearing at democracynow.org. in news from ukraine, the governor of the eastern province of donetsk has urged more than 350,000 residents to evacuate as russian forces attack areas across the region. russia is focusing its assault on donetsk after taking full control of the neighboring luhansk region. the two areas make up what's known as the donbas region. residents in donetsk have reported coming under intense shelling. >> they are shelling everywhere now but i really don't want to leave my home behind. i have a child. i hope someday this will stop. i hope for peace. i hope they stop shelling so we can move around the city calmly, go to the sea one day. amy

as for lindsay graham, the subpoena noted that he made two calls to secretary of state brad raffenspergertaff about re-examining certain absentee ballots cast in order to explore the possibility of a more favorable outcome for former president donald trump. i'm joined by maya wiley. let's go to the subpoena to rudy giuliani. i want to start -- we're going to circle back to january 6th but let's go to this georgia set of subpoenas. there is evidence that the witness's appearance and testimony at the hearing was part of a multi-state coordinated plan to influence the results of the 2020 election in georgian elsewhere. what do you make of these subpoenas not only of rudy giuliani and john eastman and jenna ellis, but also of senator lindsey graham? >> well, look, what we're seeing is a criminal investigation that started inside georgia talking to the folks who are witnesses, the folks who received the phone calls and the pressure tactics from trump and his allies, right? and we know that rudy giuliani actively engaged in the discussions that led up to january 6th. we know that from any numbe