host: first phone call for brad sherman from north carolina. go ahead. we are listening. you have to turn the television down. caller: as i understand it, we were paying pakistan $12 billion a year to help us fight. people get blowed up every day. you would think they would want to protect their own country. why should we have to pay them to help us fight this? guest: the amount of aid is closer to $4.3 billion. less than half of that is economic aid, the other is security aid. if pakistan was doing the right things, the fact that they were doing them for themselves, as well as us, which fully justified the aid, motivated its own desire. the current president is the widower of benazir bhutto, killed by terrorists. so you are right, they should be doing all of the anti-terrorism work for their own reasons, but helping them with this money makes sense. there are elements in the government that are very cooperative. there are elements that want to build a moderate anti-terrorist pakistan. those elements deserve our aid. but you cannot just throw money at the pakistani govern