until we remove them we won't see the growth we deserve. >> i must give brad sherman the last word ando so willingly and gratefully. go ahead, brad. >> this isn't the time to beat up on democrats. this isn't the time to dust off all the anti-obama talking points. the question is in a bad economy, is this a step forward? the critics of this program will still say it will reduce our unemployment rate by a quarter point or better. it will increase our economic growth rate by a quarter point or better. that's hundreds of thousands of people who can come home from a day's work and say, i'm able to support my family. and when did that become a bad thing because -- because somebody could score some political points. >> can i just -- >> gains over two years or more, again, a drop in the bucket. we have 24 million americans who can't find a job. snow all i want to say, you've both been great. i want to say this. at the jackson hole conference, bernanke said the fed has helped create 2 million new jobs after they put in $2 trillion in the economy. so that comes to what, do the math. $2 trillion