law does not mean that we should. >> congressman brad sherman, thank you for joining me. thousands of civilians are fleeing a suburb of the capital in damascus. it has been under siege from assad's is four months and according to opposition fighters, they tried to starve the people into submission. international correspondent is in sides. she has sent us the six dose of report on the exodus. exclusive this report. they have been under siege here for nine long months. to weak to walk. they are exhausted by their ordeal. sealed the area off telling them, surrender or starve. civilians paid the price. thank god we are out. my body is shaking. there was no food. we had to eat grass. are the last of the civilians who were trapped damiya since march. only a few people were allowed to escape and nothing was allowed to enter. you could not even get a piece of bread inside moadamiya. the than 10 miles from capital, children dying of starvation and they sent messages begging the world to help. they have called for urgent access and the government finally agreed. whoever stayed, the

law does not mean that we should. >> congressman brad sherman, thank you for joining me. thousands of civilians are fleeing a suburb of the capital in damascus. it has been under siege from assad's is four months and according to opposition fighters, they tried to starve the people into submission. international correspondent is in sides. she has sent us the six dose of report on the exodus. exclusive this report. they have been under siege here for nine long months. to weak to walk. they are exhausted by their ordeal. sealed the area off telling them, surrender or starve. civilians paid the price. thank god we are out. my body is shaking. there was no food. we had to eat grass. are the last of the civilians who were trapped damiya since march. only a few people were allowed to escape and nothing was allowed to enter. you could not even get a piece of bread inside moadamiya. the than 10 miles from capital, children dying of starvation and they sent messages begging the world to help. they have called for urgent access and the government finally agreed. whoever stayed, the

volt is what- >> how wart brought in john mccain and -- brad sherman -- they appealed to those other take a look at when somebody like jim mcdermott retires in seattle, if you're a democrat, one of the 7,000 democrat who is's going to run for that seat, how do you break out? you appeal to the -- >> so this is a huge democratic district, two democrats are going to facing off. but -- >> who were soft obama voters or who voted for mitt romney, the 16% who did. that's a great way to peel off the 5 or ten points to put yourself above everything. >> washington's being done this for a longtime and california, 2012 is the first time they did it. we had some republican on republican, democrat on democrat. and we don't know yet, right, it's going to probably take a decade to find out, does the entire california delegation essentially shift to the center? >> yes. and as a matter of fact, a lot of the political science disagrees with this based on louisiana and the history of how they are sort -- this is not a moderate delegation. >> arguably this is a one party state. >> it's not a moderate del

brad sherman from california. >> thank you. america provides advice to countries on the rule of law and good government. we are in a situation where many of us are embarrassed to be part of the federal government and this congress. this shutdown, what effect has it had on our image particularly in east africa as a country and the model to follow and our capacity to train, to gather information, to do the development projects aimed at hearts and minds. i realize this is away from the questions you may have prepared for but does anyone have an answer to how the shutdown is affecting our efforts in east africa? dr. jones. >> mr. chairman, i don't know what the perception is in east africa. my biggest concern the longer this grows or at least one concern is our ability to continue to monitor this threat from intelligence agencies if we have people that have been furloughed. >> there are an awful lot of folks at the state department that are being furloughed right now. trips to africa have been canceled in the last week 10 minutes,

representative brad sherman, democrat from california. scott garrett is a republican from new jersey. >> welcome back, everybody. >> good to see you, gentlemen. thanks very much. representative garrett, i want to ask you about some of the intricacies we talked about a moment ago with john harwood. that is if you're in a room with the president and the republicans and the president are meeting, and you come to a decision that, yes, we are going to open the government again. we're going to do everything we can to get the government reopened by tuesday. but in the meantime let's talk about the debt limit, let's talk about cutting spending, is that going to fly? >> so the operative word in all you described right there is the word "talk." right? unfortunately until this point, the president has said he will not engage in talk. he said that not only to republicans when he said i will not negotiate, i will not negotiate, he has said that apparently we learned in the last 24 hours even to members of his own party. i know you saw what happened wh

the biggest one that we all paid attention to last year was brad sherman and howard berman two liberalrats running in the san fernando valley to represent hollywood effectively. and at the end of that race, when the two -- those two democrats, the most expensive house race in the entire country, by the way, was one in which the seat would be democratic anyway, when they got to the general election, you saw both of these very liberal democrats trotting out endorsements from republicans, trying to win over the 10%, 15%, 20% of the vote going to mitt romney. >> that's one of the things we talk about all the time is these -- how many republicans come from districts that barack obama won last year, very, very few. all answering to republican primary electorates. if you take a republican electorate and say the general election now, maybe 20, 30% of the voters and tea party republican and the more moderate republican, the democrats have a little bit of a voice there in that district. >> i think you're also seeing a gop establishment striking back kind of -- coming into form for 2014 because i

joining us this morning is congressman brad sherman, a democrat from california. what would it take for you to agree to some sort of compromise with the other side? >> well, you know, it's interesting. we've been moving a lot of different bills in the house. we moved off our initial position. the most recent cr we sent to the senate would've funded all operations of government on two conditions. one, the members of congress actually live under the law that they passed and not get an illegal bailout. and two, that individuals receive the same one-year delay of obama care's individual mandate that the president unlawfully gave to big businesses. so we think that was very reasonable. harry reid says he will not deal with anything other than if it's what he wants. >> i would say the president and harry reid say they're not going to have to deal with issues of obama care. is there anything other than just looking at the budget itself? >> we've moved individual spending bills to address the specific things that the president has enumerated are problems baa uz of the shu