brad thor, great to have you with us. >> thanks, lou, great to be here.congratulations on the new book. i'm half way through it. i'm reading it on amazon's -- shameless plug for amazon because i love it, kindle fire, and i have to say it's just -- it's a terrific read. it has you from the very beginning. >> thank you. lou: i was fascinated you began the book with a quote from senator frank church, a democratic senator, played a large role that people don't realize, but for him to cry out with caution about what we're doing to ourselves, it is the legislative equivalent of presidentize p hour's -- eisenhowers beware of the military complex. >> exactly. it's faction. where do the facts end, fiction begin? i started that blacklist with that quote from frank church where he said basically if the nsa ever turns its giant listening ears in on the united states, surveillance will take over and privacy will be dead. in the wake of 9/11, what happened? the giant ears were turned inward, and we'll all suspects now. everything we do, text messages, e-mails, gps posi