and i look upon bradbury's tale as a cautionary one. and i sometimes wonder how far off we are from that. i hope a good distance. but is that not a kind of an addict option? i'm not saying i am advocating that audience adjusting that are there multiplicity of strategies we can pursue? is that one of them? are there other such as eric has described? are the others such as st. john's represents? are there other such as what professor cass has described? and how can we each and her own capacity to generate support for those endeavors? how can we resist those who would silence fought? how can we appeal to those who can arm and support what we do? what are the multiplicity of strategies? i think we would make a great mistake if we think there is one solution to this. how can we develop the multiplicity of solutions, whether it be think tanks or whether it be the heroic band in the swamp, i don't know. it seems to me that we perhaps could take and intelligence step by identifying what the multiplicity of those possibilities are. and using a w

. >> and bradbury's any comment on that issue in particular? >> i agree with dr. daniels. what i want to highlight is that the free trade zones in the u.s. are a little bit different to those abroad. free trade zones in u.s. are heavily regulated, customs and border protection, they do great work in that space, a teeny merchandise in the united states going in and out of a free trade zone is subject to shipping documents such as country of origin, description, valuation. very similar to the shipping information when they are bringing merchandise into our commerce or out of the united states with -- >> this as an impact on terrorism financing around the world. does the united states government have any kind of jurisdiction in those free zones in other countries, in other parts of the world? >> only if it pertains to merchandise coming in to our commerce. >> thank you, mr. chairman very much. i yield back my time and thank you all for being here today. >> that chair recognizes the gentlelady from new york, ms. maloney. >> thank you for holding this important hearing on the t

mat kaplan: as ray bradbury said, we are the martians or we should be. we have already had workshops to look at what the landing sites might be for human exploration. >> it is progressing rapidly. technologically we are looking at those landing sites and saying, what are the challenges of landing there safely, and what we need the crew to be healthy and productive. that is what has already started. >> also the co2 atmosphere is intriguing. we are looking at the ability to pull oxygen out. on the space station we take carbon dioxide the crew generates and combine that with hydrogen for the crew to breathe and hydrogen is a waste gas. read combine that with the crew, we make more water and create methane. so there is a nice cycle. methane is a propellant that can be used for vehicles, etc. so there is a nice advantage of using the co2 atmosphere in a real way combined with some of the water on mars to really refine some of those chemical processes. you are right, they have huge benefits to us on earth as we deal with a co2 environment we are potentially ta

. >> as ray bradbury said we are the martians or we should be.we have already had workshops to look at what the landing sites might be for human exploration. >> progress is progressing rapidly. >> technologically we are looking at those landing sites say what are the challenges of landing safely and operating systems on the surface we need for the crew to be healthy and productive. that is all restarted and will continue. >> the co2 atmosphere is intriguing, looking at the ability to pull oxygen out of the atmosphere on board space station, we take our dioxide the crew generates, combine that with the hydrogen made from electrolysis of water into oxygen for the crews to breathe, hydrogen is waste gas, combine at hydrogen with the co2 the crew generates, we make more water and create methane so there is a nice cycle, methane is a propellant that can be used for a sent vehicles, there is a nice advantage of using that co2 atmosphere in a real way combined with water on mars to refine those chemical processes and you are exactly right. some of those