>> both: right. >> that's a big hope. >> yeah, but it's hope. >> it's hope. >> braden's parents -- terry and wendy fleming. how old was braden when you began to realize he had some problems? >> he was 15 months old, and he was walking past me, and i saw his head drop, and he went... and then he just kept walking, and i went, "oh, that's not good." >> we really didn't start to notice a lag until he started kindergarten. that's when we really started getting concerned and saying, "well, maybe he's not gonna grow out of this." >> and he hasn't. do you ever watch sports? >> yeah, yeah. >> we witnessed one right in the middle of our conversation. >> or...i...watch baseball. >> was that one right there? >> mm-hmm. >> so you just had a little seizure right there. >> mm-hmm. but it was a short one. >> just a little one. >> yeah. >> yeah. you can't control it, can you? >> mnh-mnh. >> it just happens. >> mm-hmm. >> along with 12,000 other children nationwide, braden is on the waiting list for a medicine called "charlotte's web." it's named after charlotte figi, a colorado child with a severe form of epilepsy called