a few occasions and i i met him on a few occasions and i think that is on the occasions in bradford crown court statement in the case of mr ishaq, if we scroll down we can see his comments... there is a section there of the horizon online system and this is in the defence statement, it says the system would often crash and freeze and would give inaccurate total figures. he says, i am aware that there were some issues in the early days of horizon online, but i don't believe these impacted the overall counting at the end of the period. recovery was carried out correctly. providing recovery was carried out correctly, it shouldn't have impacted on the figures. he says that the migration date was well into the full roll—out and the branch was not operating horizon online during the pilot. if we scroll over the page, he then addresses those reports and he says as follows, just below... if we scroll down slightly. he says i have no easy visibility of these reports, it is possible to retrieve them from the system and examine them but i am not aware of them being provided in evidence. i have certainly n