brainhe died from a tumor, he was succeeded by my physics professor. ehlers.ry and vern >> i have to ask since we are on the subject of congressman from grand rapids. when you were a girl, did you ever meet jerry ford? >> i did indeed. i attribute his campaign in 1976 to getting me involved in politics to begin with. i was in college at the time. i think between my freshman and sophomore year. i became a scatter blister for jerry ford. a group of college students that were deployed to go door to door campaigning for jerry ford. we went in michigan, ohio, then i wentconsin, to the kansas city convention and we blitzed there. nd would go and create noise a enthusiasm. >> to defeat the reagan forces. i know you would join them later. back, it was a very interesting and informative time. >> i heard president ford speak in crisler arena. i guess it was the first president i ever laid eyes on. here's a question from one of our guests. how will your policies affect low income rural communities with few nonpublic schools available? >> this is a good question.