and this month sell bralcelebra 30th anniversary.ht, 30 years. >> just a child at the time. >> since the recording of michael jackson's "man in the mirror" one of his critically acclaimed songs that she happened to co-write. i am honored to have you on the program. >> it is my pleasure. thank you. when i say man in the mirror, you think what? >> michael jackson. how do you not? i think change. i think -- a swelling of consciousness of change. change in the air. it was electric. and he delivered that message with such style. and perfection. it touched the world. he introduced me as a singer, first of all to the world. and then, me as a song writer. with that song. man in the mirror. >> tell me about writing the song. >> ready, i will give you the reader's digest version. i was assigned to quincy jones as a songwriter. he had a meeting with his songwriters and said we need one more song to finish out the "bad" album. i took copious notes. i've went to my co-writer, friend, glen ballard. and i said to him -- quincy wants a song for this