brandon collins from u.c. berkeley, thank you very much. and kate maxwell from the "mendocino voice," we appreciate you both joining us. >>> thisnovember, california voters will decide the fate of 11 ballot measures.e f them, proposition 10, could vastly expand rent control by letting cities cap the rent on any residential property, even new ones. proponents argue that the measure's needed to address the state's housing shortage and high cost of living. opponents claim prop 10 would discourage new development, lead to more evictions, and take rental its off the rket. joining me now with analysis are kqed politics and government reporter guy marsarotti. tenant right attorney, overseass tobner whopports proposition 10. and debra carlton, senior vice president of the california apartment associati opposes the measure. thanks for joining me. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> let's start, i want you to sof lay out what would proposition 10 do, and as importantly not do? >> let's start that. i think if proposition 10 passes it wouldn't

kansas from 2016 that happened to occur on 9/11 of 2016, johnson county sheriff's deputy, deputy brandon collinsa drunken driver who was illegal immigrant while making traffic stop of another person, that illegal immigrant is convicted of second-degree murder under kansas law, should have never been on that night in the first place. we have another case in the kansas city metropolitan area where a fellow was illegal immigrant, had been here and long criminal history, deported several years previously and came back across the border illegally. we are not sure when, committed more crimes and now stands charge with 5 murders, four in kansas, one in missouri, of course, he's charged not yet convicted, innocent till proven guilty, the point is this is not unusual circumstances. we just -- stuart: i'm sorry, i've got to jump in because i'm coming up against a hard break and i've got -- i'm sorry. mr. attorney general, i'm very sorry, i'm against a real hard break and i have to leave you, look, thanks for being with us, we will bring you back when we have more time, that's a fact. we will do that. the