brandon jackson was convicted of armed robbery in 1997, a crime. he says he didn't commit and sentenced to life. the verdict and brandon's chase was not unanimous 10 years, but a guilty. 2 jurors voted not guilty in 48 out of 50 states. brandon would have had the right to me trial. ready but not in louisiana. ready it's important to have a unanimous jury verdict because it is important to make sure that there are not reasonable doubts as to someone's guilt. so in one or 2 jurors will say that they have a doubt about guilt. how you can continue to put someone in prison is, is beyond me. brandon has been fighting to get out of prison for years. in 2020, there was hope when the supreme court ruled that these convictions were unconstitutional. but the court later said the ruling would not be retroactive, meaning brandon wouldn't get a new trial. and you, you all did it with across the julian. boy, you speak really? you know why we know why? because you eat a victim more african american males than indeed any other race fault lines partnered with the len

i remember, and brandon jackson coming into the jury into the courtroom and he was very sure of himself. he seemed to have a very am he smiled a law. he seemed very relaxed. but i remember brandon made a lot of our contact with the jurors. and he seemed to be pretty sure of himself, and like i said, i felt he was real, really over confident. and so there was so nunez about his doing something about his demeanour that it was like, he was trying to win us over to his side with his, my, all his, he made a lot of eye contact. i remember and, and so i think, i think that was, and i remember that real strongly about him. and so it was attended to conviction. i was at 10 to 200. okay. and the 2 who did not agree were african were both african american. oh okay. we actually caught up with the one woman. oh, she didn't think he was guilty or she just wasn't convinced because she said that nobody had, nobody was able to identify him. right. because they all had ski mask or they had bandanas on. nobody was able to identify him except for the co conspirator who. how does that make you feel about no

nick, i want you to tell us the story of brandon jackson because this is not a theoretical legal situation that we're talking about real nice of being impacted . what do we know about need to know about brandon? so yeah, brandon jackson was convicted of armed robbery in 1997 and his trial at his trial he was, he was convicted by anonymous jury. so 1010 people voted to convict him. and 2 people voted not to convict. so in any other state except for oregon, this would have resulted in a mis trial and he would have had the right to under trial and in louisiana that he was convicted. he was sentenced initially to life in prison, although no one was, was injured during this armed robbery. ah. and that sentences was later reduced to 40 years, but he remains in prison now, you know, 25 years later on. so that, that's sort of the, the short the short version of brandon story. yeah, i, i bring an bramble jackson hall because in the fall line stock, you mentioned that you worked without a 0 on brandon is interviewed while he is incarcerated. and this is how he tells his own story, have a listen, hav

brandon story. yeah. i, i bring and bridal jackson hall because in the fort lines documentary that you worked without a 0 on at brandon is interviewed while he is incarcerated. and this is how he tells his own story. have a listen, have a look at only with they. there is a word that i can describe will have been of a joint for a year. no one did. i bid a course wait for something that i didn't do. i mean they were level weren't in a dictionary and i've been waking up like dead since 1996. i think about it all day every day. oh boy no. i'll be 50. ready december to learn so you have spent all of your young adult life into now in prison. you can you basically say i grew up in prison is now just looking at my laptop at a headline supreme court rules. julie verdict must be unanimous. why is this not the end of the story, jason? well, you know, it doesn't address retro activity and they're talking about what happens with cases that come from that ruling on. but they don't go back and look at and try to reckon with or begin repairing the 120 plus years of injustice. and that retro activity is truly what must ha

diaz-guzman, javier velasco, tomas carlo camacho, brandon rodriguez, segundo guallpa, thomas braunson iii, richard blake, jose mejia martinez, robert jacksonen khadu. last month, more than a dozen elected officials visited rikers island following reports of worsening conditions. this is new york assemblymember jessica gonzalez-rojas speaking after touring rikers. >> i am admittedly an emotional mess. i have nine pages of mothers to call. partners to call. loved ones to call. because people have been stuck inside for days, weeks, four months, without -- for months without a court hearing. i witnessed and attempted suicide. they try to hang themselves right there. nobody deserves this. amy: well, this week, new york governor kathy hochul and new york city mayor bill de blasio announced they will transfer most of the 230 people, including women to two state prisons about 40 north of the city, including the maximum-security bedford hills prison. again, most of them are awaiting trial. for more, we're joined by three guests. anisa hayes a leader with the old solitary campaign. jullian harris-calvin is director of the greater justice new york pr