the president of the border patrol council brandon judd and jessica van at the center for immigration studies joins us tonight and a selloff on wall street, all three indexes in the red for the year to date. the business press covering tariffs like the left-wing national media covers politics with hyperbole, sensationalism, fake news and plain indifference to facts. we take up the silly reporting on trump policies, trade and marketed a knight-ridder top story president trump stand up with mexico over its failure to protect borders. mexican officials are apparently supporting it caravan of illegal immigrants who have been moving north at the crossing mexico's southern border. the group hopes to reach ports of entry in arizona, california where they have been schooled on the most effective ways to claim asylum. "fox news" national correspondent william la jeunesse with our report. report a week ago a caravan of central americans cross from guatemala to mexico bound for the u.s.. >> after having crossed to check points i estimate there are about 1300. reporter: unlike most immigrants who

joining us now is 20 year border patrol veteran brandon judd and former arizona sheriff paul badeau. on on the president calling on mexico to do more? >> he did the absolute right thing. when you look at it, mexico is facilitating -- the government of mexico is actually facilitating these individuals to come up to our borders and break u.s. law or the sovereignty of the united states. he should absolutely call on the leaders of the mexican government to put an end to this. they have very strict immigration laws, yet they are throwing their laws over their shoulder to allow these people to come up and break our laws. that cannot happen.er >> katie: sheriff, i want to talk about the local law enforcement perspective of this. you were in charge of a county, not a border county, but in a border state, has border county problems. talk about how when mexico allows thousands of people to c come through into the united states without stopping them or vetting them, how that affects deputies on the ground. >> well, crime. one, you are adding criminal illegals, besides it's not just the millions

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brandon judd is here to speak on behalf of approximately 15,000 border patrol agents in his capacity of the president of the national border patrol council. colonel stephen serves as texas public safety. we also have the honorable author resident fellow with the center for immigration studies and former immigration judge. and, lastly, we welcome mr. michael bream from the truman center, a national security expert and iraq war veteran. i'd like to add that we did invite the u.s. border patrol to join us here today, and they chose not to send a witness to testify on this important matter. again rgs i'd like to thank all the witnesses who decided to join us here today and look forward to their testimony. finally, i just want to make sure we will be maintaining order in the hearing room. so i thank you and i yield to my ranking member gentleman from massachusetts for his opening statement. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i'd also like to thank and welcome our witnesses today. thank you for helping this committee with your work. on the bill passed last month, there are members on both sides o

brandon judd, the president of the national border atrol council, also border patrol agent, talking aboutration policy. mr. judd, thank you for your time. thank you. host: it is stop number 30 in of "50 capitals tour" across the united states. the mile-high to city of denver, colorado. buildingof the capital you are see suggest plated with 24-karat gold onboard the bus. and that is governor hickenlooper, good morning. governor, good morning. how would you describe the most pressing issue in your state currently? governor hickenlooper: right fixing ing to balance our pension and then making sure that we're able to at the same for get resources transportation and resources, as teachers more. those three things are having to in simultaneously in balance. host: so what kind of shortfalls talking and what is the proposal that will help you balance?hat governor hickenlooper: well, big now looking at the flood of money that has come state.he the state right now having some 25ongest economy probably in years with number one economy in the country right now. we're enough resources, going to put 3%

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then, national board of patrol council president brandon judd discusses border security. fromhen we are live colorado for the 50 capitals tour with john hickenlooper to talk about talk -- top policy issues in his state. be sure to watch washington journal monday morning. join the discussion. monday evening at 7:00 p.m., james comey will be on book tv on c-span2 in primetime with his best-selling autobiography a higher loyalty. he will discuss several of the issues he faced as fbi director, including the russian investigation, hillary clinton females, and his views on president trump. book james comey, live on tv on c-span2 on prime time, monday at 7:00 p.m. eastern. >> now, labor secretary alexander acosta discusses deregulation efforts by the trump administration. he spoke at friday's meeting of the republican national lawyers association. this is about 25 minutes. conference

jesse: a 0-year veteran of the border patrol council, brandon judd.ou heard my discussion with ali, was there anything inaccurate that you would like to address, having all that expense on the border? >> yes, a couple things. when he says the vast majority of drugs come across the ports of entry, that's not true. the border patrol seizes more drugs than any other agency minus the coast guard. most of drugs are coming across the border between the ports of entry, not through the ports of entry. i was a k-9 handler. and i can tell you how many drugs i used to see with my k-9. jesse: a lot of that is heroin now our research is showing. >> heroin and the opioid basis. it's what's killing all these people in the united states. i have to applaud president trump for putting the national guard on the border. that allows us to go after the criminal cartels. their profits are based on getting things through the border that includes humans, narcotic. they have to get it across the border. jesse:er time a migrant wants to cross the border he has to pay a coyote.

brandon judd. >> you've been out in front of this debate longer than anybody i know of and you know theituations that we're facing. when you look at the governor finally caving in, that's simply because the people of orange, the other cities, they've spoken and now he's feeling the heat. but thank goodness for those people, thank goodness they have spoken because we're going to get the support that we need in california. >> it is truly a border that is now, as we've discussed, so much of all of the most dangerous drugs, most popular drugs unfortunately are crossing from mexico into the united states. it's marijuana, it is cocaine, heroin, it is -- it's stunning. and fein fentanyl, this new drut is a killer. we're talking about we people of this country cannot simply leave ourselves wide open to the drug cartels and the death merchants responsible for the deaths of so many millions of young americans. >> this multimillion dollar business, it is an industry, all controlled by criminal cartels that look for weak -- lou: qush i in which there is no consequence to having violent drug cartels

brandon judd is the president of the national border patrol council and 20 year veteran with the border what's going to happen? >> good morning, griff. look, you've done extensive reporting on the border. you have been one of the very few reporters that have actually gone to the border, has seen what's going on on the border and you know exactly what's going to happen next. what's going to happen is these individuals are going to come to our ports of entry. they are going to claim asylum or they are going to cross the border between the ports of entry which is an illegal act. we're going to take them into custody. they are going to ask for asylum. these individuals are hoping that we're going to continue with the catch and release policy that we're going to release them and then they are never going to show up to their court date which is going to be two years from now which is ridiculous, that's what they're hoping for. but, whether you are right, left, closed minded, open-minded, in the middle, you have to say what president trump has done is nothing less than miraculous when he has c

brandon judd is the president of the national border patrol council representing 18,000 guards. you, sir? what will 4,000 national guard troops do for security? >> it will be a huge boon and let us go after the smugglers, the multi-billion dollar industry that brings people across predicated getting their products across. the national guard will take over surveillance positions which allows us to put more agents in the field on the border which then allows us to go after the bottom line of the criminals. >> bill: it frees up resources. who pays for it? it doesn't come free. >> the federal government will be paying the states. the states will foot some of the bill but the federal government will foot the most. >> bill: arizona says they'll do it, texas. >> california says no. >> bill: new mexico will. california has held out. what do you expect from their governor? >> i think because the trump administration has the right to federalize the national guard. if he steps in he can override the governor's decision not to put troops on the border. i don't know that he will do that. we

the president of the national border patrol council, brandon judd, joining me, al reyes and maria car dondona, director for immigration and naturalization services, and she's also a political commentator. maria, i want to start with you, because you were watching leyla's report, and you were honestly starting to tear up a little bit. tell me how this has touched your heart. >> this, as a mother of an 11-year-old daughter and a 13-year-old boy, i can understand what these migrants are going through. i have met them. i know who these people are. luckily i have not been through the hell they have been through, but understanding as a mother, if you are pregnant and you are coming over on a journey where you are battling hunger so that your young children can eat, and you are struggling to leave a country so that your young children don't have to have death threats every single day, that is a matter of life and death, ryan. i don't think people -- starting with donald trump -- understand what these migrants struggle through. they don't just get up in the morning and say, hey, i think it's

joining me to discuss, brandon judd. border patrol agent.ell us your thoughts and perhaps the thoughts your peersr with respect to getting help from the national guard. >> we look forward to it. i like it when governors in states like oregon push back against the president. because that lets the base see how they have to gel and come together. that's why his numbers go up. it's pushbacks like this that make him more popular. the border patrol agents think the national guard will be a huge boon. it will the free up our resources and allow us to put more agents on the bored to increase the certainty of apprehension of those who cross illegally and increase certainty of seizure of drugs that cross the border. it will be a huge boon. charles: 50,008 stops on the bored on a thin force with a low morale. but you guys are doing the job. president trump wants to go even further with respect to this catch and release plan. what are your thoughts on that? >> he has to go after the catch and release program. he reiterate that's times. he talked about t

here to weigh in president of the national border patrol council and border patrol agent brandon judd of people in mÉxico, just a stone-throw away from the united states trying to get in. it didn't work out for them yesterday, but what is going to happen going forward, will the u.s. ever process their claims and if so when? >> well, first, we have to understand they are doing it the wrong way, they should have gone to american consulate there in their own countries whether it's guatemala or honduras, they should have asked for asylum there so claims could have been investigated there in their own countries and then if they had a legitimate claim they would have been given the documents that were necessary to come over to the united states. they're making a mockery of our justice system and what's great is a picture is worth a thousand words and the democrats are making the case right now for border wall because all of your viewers are looking at the pictures of these people climbing on the fence, they're in california, that's in the united states, what they're doing is and illegal act

let's go back to sunday morning and on fox news, brandon judd for the agents labor union said this. >> our legislators have to stand up. republicans control the house and senate. they do not need the democrats support to pass any laws they want. they can go the nuclear option just like what they did on the confirmation. they need to pass laws to end the catch and release program. >> that was 9:12 on sunday morning. the president at mar-a-lago. at 9:56, the president tweets border patrol agents not allowed to do their job because of ridiculous laws like catch and release. republicans must go to the nuclear option. no more daca deal. greg, why now did he react to one segment on fox news. nine tweets follow. that now action from the national guard. >> i have a hunch that was part of it. i have a hunch people at mar-a-lago that weekend expressed real disappointment that the president hasn't been tough enough and we don't have a wall and we didn't get any money. i think trump needs to show them some testosterone. when you have ann coulter and the right wing saying he is looking weak on thi

brandon judd is with us, border patrol union president. old they will be met at the border by a whole bunch of lawyers, get them across, take their application for asylum that is it, they stay. is that what is going to happen? >> depends what they do it. if they come to the points of entry, that is it legal means of claiming asylum. if they cross the border illegally between border entry i have to take them into custody. the problem your viewers need to understand, when they get here, claim asylum, we allow them into the united states, give them temporary work permit, give them temporary permission to be here. we expect them to show up to the court date a few years down the road which they never do. that is how we know they're gaming the system. stuart: so you have an idea, i believe, for a massive detention center, right on the border which would take people in, process them. either allow them to stay when a decision is made or send them back to where they came from? you want a massive detention center, right? >> well it would work. i mean

brandon judd is with us. porter virtual union president. >> it's a radical shift to the border.i do. you get to talk about sports, politics, market, business. you are like the wal-mart of this program. stuart: amazon. >> exactly. i agree with this 100%. this increases certainty of apprehension of both illegal aliens as well as illegal contraband like opioids. what it does is it allows the military or national guard, whichever one it is that will go to the border. it allows them to take over our surveillance position such as watching the cameras and the camera rooms, watching the sensors were beaten in the skybox is and all of the other surveillance act committees we perform and that allows us to put our agents on the border, which will then allow us to apprehend things crossing the border, which will put a dent in this multi-billion dollars industry that the cartels are currently running. i agree 100%. stuart: the key question is are they going to have guns? i remember in the distant past troops were on the border. there was an incident in which an american soldier shot someone

brandon judd. president of the national border patrol council.nsley: still ahead, the taliban ramping up attacks. what does it mean for the war on terror? we will talk to the former commander next. steve: live from the white house press secretary sarah sanders is going to join us live from new york city where it's snowing and white house easter egg roll where it is not. ♪ brian: general john campbell is with us now for the first time retired. have you been on the investor canada with the -- vere troops. i want to talk to you about that. your last command was afghanistan. despite the rules of engagement that president trump put in place, do you think anything changes in that country as the fighting season begins? >> yeah. absolutely. i think the u.s. and afghan forces continue to put a lot of pressure on the taliban. president has reached out with reconciliation offers of peace. the taliban is striking back. a lot of different attacks lately. i have a lot of confidence in the afghan security forces. their air force continues to build up. new helic

abby: we'll follow this march closely brandon judd, really great perspective. so much. ed: thanks, brandon. >> thanks. ed: coming up attorney general jeff sessions appointing a federal prosecutor to investigate an alleged fisa abuse by the fbi. is it enough? we'll ask house judiciary committee chairman bob goodlatte , that's next. pssst. what? i switched to geico and got more. more savings on car insurance? a-ha. and an award-winning mobile app. that is more. oh, there's more. mobile id cards, emergency roadside service... more technology. i can even add a new driver... ...right from her phone! geico. expect great savings and a whole lot more. brbut how will his dentured to thicope with... a steak. luckily for brad, this isn't a worry because he's discovered super poligrip. it holds his denture tight and helps give him 65% more chewing power. leaving brad to dig in and enjoy the tastiest of t-bones. super poligrip, helping you enjoy the foods you love. bounty is more absorbent,mom" per roll so the roll can last 50% longer than the leading ordinary brand. so you

pete: brandon judd.ical. he said this is about the safety and the security of the american people. everyone should want to improve that. ed: major national security issues securing the border dealing with illegal immigration , breaking overnight we have another big national security issue that's why it's a fox news alert dozens dead in this chemical attack in syria a little earlier on the show we exclusively had the house intel chairman devon nunes on he's trying to get a briefing on this to get a handle on this because remember the last time we had an attack like this a chemical attack in syria in 2,017, president trump ordered u.s. strikes decimated an air base in syria and breaking right now the president has just tweet ed about this attack saying "many dead, including women and children, in mindless chemical attack in syria, area is in lockdown and en circled by the syrian army making it completely in accessible to the outside world. president putin, russia and iran are responsible for backing animal

democrats and republicans brandon judd union control president asked about this president focus. >> ifre a fan of border security, you have to appreciate what president trump has done to this point. he is put an awful lot of time and effort. it was his number one domestic policy when he was campaigning, and he has followed through on that. when he talks about putting the military on the border. we have done that before. president obama did that we did that during vicente fox's time in mexico. he is not escalating any hate or discontent. what he is trying to do is trying to secure a sovereign nation from people that are crossing the borders illegally. if they want to come here and claim asylum, let them do it properly, let them do it lawfully, but that's not what's happening. ainsley: that caravan of people you might wonder where they are. they haven't made it that far. they are actually still in the southern part of mexico. camped out at a soccer field where the mexican immigration officials came out and they had their mega phone and they said one at a time you come up and show me your

pete: brandon judd. this is what the end of the catch and release program might be.w if we can go back to the original one. there we go. the release release immigrants caught in u.s. can't be released while cases play out in court. departments will share information. u.s. attorneys along the border to prosecute all referrals from dhs for illegal entry. the key here: the order is telling dhs to submit a report within 45 days. a civilian and military. as well as personnel. if you are going to make the policy detained at the border. you are detained until your court date. some of these folks have been waiting a year or two. then they are released and supposed to come back to court and they never do. ed: they are just out somewhere. pete: if you are somewhere, have you got to have somewhere to hold them. don't have these facilities yet. come down to logistics. ed: will the the president and the justice department in the last week also moved forward on this new policy where immigration judges have to meet new quotas. they have to hear more cases than they were hearing bef

brendan judd is with us, border patrol union president. brandonke to get the troops to the border and ready for action so to speak? >> they are going there right now. how long it will take to get ready will not take long at all. it will be a seamless integration in the positions, it will allow us, to put a dent in the bottom line. >> the national guard will be armed on the border. we are told that by the governor. you approve of that? >> i do. these are our troops, they are not taking anybody into custody but they have to be protected and should be able to protect themselves, border patrol, people taking illegal immigrants into custody, we are still going to be the ones enforcing the laws but the national guard with arms will protect themselves in the event it is needed. stuart: arizona new mexico sending national guard people to the border but we have not yet heard from california. give us a status report on whether or not california national guard will be at the border. >> that shouldn't surprise anybody. company will push back on anything this