. >> host: agent konrad motyka brandon sasso is here and ask a question. >> guest: i'm wondering if you think the way it is written and there is a distinction between whether e-mails are 180 days over whether they been opened or not and if that distinction makes sense with the people use e-mails now and if that something that congress should change? >> caller: well, it was under review during the prior congress and is under review by this congress. i think there is no doubt going to be certain modifications made and i also know that it's the tradition of the department justice or a 180 day disc tension is an artificial one. we take our legal guidance from the department justice so we would follow that. i think the issue from our perspective in my perspective in particular is because the question is so complicated if you update and change the laws were more changes are going to be put in place that will make the job of law enforcement more difficult. if there's a way to change the law to make the process better knowledge in the fact now that the department justice wants to have a warrant

. >> host: grover norquist, laura murphy americans civil liberties union and brandon sasso from the hill. this is "the communicators" on c-span. >> over the last, certainly over the last four years i'm worried about this administration and that i think is part of a long-term trend as i outlined in the book. it's using more and more state power to impose a particular worldview, and worldview i call liberalism and we won't go into it definition of that so we are not using the term loosely but as a christian i am worried when the state hhs agency wants to mandate that catholic institutions have to pay for -- in their insurance programs and i'm worried when the supreme court starts taking up things like marriage. marriage. i mourned that the things they see at universities. so i see more and are the state imposing a particular kind of agenda and it's really a worldview. it's bigger than politics. it's bigger than the republican and democrat. that's the worldview i'm investigating. federal reserve chairman ben bernanke highlighted low-income communities by community developments research in w