rob: brandon tatum with urban engagement at turning point us and former tucson arizona police officerorning. let's bring up a paul of african-american voter support for donald trump. if you look at it right now the number of african-americans supporting the president is 11%, not a bragging right but better than 2016 when he was at 5%. probably a marginal increase but what do you think the president is doing that is working for black voters? >> it is called result, not just rhetoric, not hatred, not legitimate or sustainable as a result, regular unemployment, driven orship among african-americans, when you see those numbers and things you want to vote for something that encourages you to move forward, not hateful rhetoric with no solutions. jillian: how can either party with 5 days to go get the support of some of the black voters who may be undecided, may not know what direction they want to go? >> what it comes to his education, like turning point usa we do a good job educating across the board. our summit last weekend, 400 black leaders had a great opportunity to hear from the presi