. >>> someone you know in brasz ill said that -- brazil said that f.i.f.a. is as popular there as fema was after hurricane katrina. if you told me soccer-obsessed brazilians would turp against the world cup, i would have thought you were caszy, given the problems, is it fair to ask whether the world cup or olympics should be awarded to third-world countries. >> it's not that brazil is part of the global south or the third world. the problem is what f.i.f.a. and the international olympic committee bring to whatever country they go to. whether you talk about london, beijing, the united states. i mean, it brings the militarization, public space, the displacement of people and a rise in debt. this has been the case post 9/11, with the security measures demanded of a host country, and they step up world cup to world cup. brazil is the fifth largest economy on earth. sao paulo is the third largest city. rio is an expensive city. it's not about the absence of development. it's about what f.i.f.a. and the ioc demand, that's why the 2022 winter olympics have two coun