do you rememberany braw again. elisabeth, i want you to ask...thing that we can learn from in this instance?— anything that we can learn from in this instance? i remember vividly, even though _ this instance? i remember vividly, even though i— this instance? i remember vividly, even though i wasn't _ this instance? i remember vividly, even though i wasn't very - this instance? i remember vividly, even though i wasn't very old, - this instance? i remember vividly, even though i wasn't very old, i i even though i wasn't very old, i remember a west german teenager who was so committed so he thought it would be a good idea to take an aeroplane and fly all the way... on the red square, and he was hugely embarrassed because the soviet union was —— it was hugely embarrassing. so, someone who thought he was... and this spy balloon is clearly a different nature altogether. i think there are important lessons to learn notjust there are important lessons to learn not just for there are important lessons to learn notjust for america, but other countries as w

and a little later in the programme we'll speak to elisabeth braw, a security defence expert about thethe us, now, where president biden says three aerial objects shot down by the us in recent days appear to have nothing to do with china. he told reporters they were probably being used by private companies or for research purposes. i've directed my team to come back to me with sharper rules for how we will deal with these unidentified objects moving forward. distinguishing between those that are likely to pose safety and security risks that necessitate action and those that do not. but make no mistake — if any object presents a threat to the safety and security of the american people, i will take it down. let's take a look at some other stories in the headlines.... a special grand jury in the us state of georgia has found no evidence of widespread fraud in the 2020 presidential election. donald trump has repeatedly claimed the result was rigged. several witnesses were found to have lied under oath during the investigation. tesla is recalling more than 360,000 vehicles in the united sta

._ ., let us now speak to elisabeth braw, a defence and security expert who serves as a senior fellowsitive information could be picked up in montana. the chinese are saying it's just to do with the weather. what is the level of veracity of that comment? well, 'ust a few hours — veracity of that comment? well, 'ust a few hours ago fl veracity of that comment? well, 'ust a few hours ago there i veracity of that comment? well, 'ust a few hours ago there was i veracity of that comment? well, just a few hours ago there was saying, i a few hours ago there was saying, what are you are hyperventilating about? it has got nothing to do with us, now they are saying it is just a weather balloon. unfortunately, since 2020, beginning in 2020, when people began reporting that a virus was spreading in wuhan, and they said it was nothing of the sort, at the very least since then, politicians and the public around world, they have been having trouble trusting the chinese authorities, so it could well be a weather balloon, it could well be a weather balloon, it could well be a weather balloon, it could