party was heavily interacting with and dependent upon the system of corruption that has always run brazilia. >> what is your connection to lua? >> you know, i interviewed for thee first enemy time in 2016. i -- >> was he in prison at the time? >> he was not in prison but he was in the middle and a woman from the party to be the first presidential arusa. and got elected and middle of the second term and this economic boom that he benefited from turns into economic collapse and under her presidency. and so there was a serious impeachment effort underway that i was opposed to and when i interviewed him by that point it wass clear that the anticorruption probe notot justt her but aimed at hem and my interview with him but no one really thought lua would ever end up in prison like a country putting their greatest icon in prison no one thought that would happen. but they were trying and so the interview was in that context about impeachment and possibility that people were raising possible that he would be prosecuted potentially. and -- i -- ironically i had tried to interview lua when he was in

because how can we take care of our children when i'm working with stolen documents and he's in braziliayou know kind of very obviously homophobic remarks something you wouldn't say about a heterosexual couple. we're both parties, but i was very personally i mean with people talk about your children. it's kind of should be the the one limit. i know in political warfare and i was extremely angry by that and at the last minute they said, oh we like to put him on the show with you. do you mind? and i said, no, i don't mind because i wanted to confront him about these comments he had made. and they seated us. you know almost like millimeters away. i mean you couldn't have made a more combustible atmosphere if he tried and he did try. and right when the show began i said look before we begin i'm not going to talk about any music issues. i need to clear the air and i looked at him and i said i demand that you either. you know reaffirm your comments and you believe our children that we adoption should be returned to the shelter where we adopted them from or apologize and retract it. and he inst

back in brazilia, it was left to bolsonaro's chief of staff to say what the outgoing president could the president has authorized me to begin the transition to president lula. jane: that transition completes two months from today, on january 1, 2023. for "the pbs newshour," i'm jane ferguson. amna: israel held national -- stephanie: israel held national elections, and former prime minister benjamin netanyahu may be returning to power. he is still on trial for corruption, but exit polls show his right-wing bloc had a stronger-than-expected showing and could win a bare majority in parliament. this is israel's fifth election in less than 4 years. north korea has fired three ballistic missiles into the sea. the lunches hours after israel used a veiled threat. the man accused of attacking house speaker nancy pelosi's husband paul paded not guilty today to attempted murder and other state charges. david depape aeared in a san francisco court. he was ordered held without bail. depape also faces federal charges of assault and attempted kidnapping. according to court papers filed today, prose