. >> breanda, thank you very much. next one from dennis? >> yes, dennis. >> good to see you, sir. >> nice to meet you. >> you've been a ceo of a fortune 500 company. >> yes, sir. >> and you're considering a run for the presidency? >> yes, sir. >> do you believe there's a glass ceiling in american business and politics, and if so, what would you do about it? >> well, you know, i hate that term, glass ceiling, because it implies that there's this invisible barrier. you can't see it until you bump your head on it and that hasn't been my experience. i started out as a secretary. a secretary in a nine-person real estate firm.

. >> breanda, thank you very much. next one from dennis? >> yes, dennis. >> good to see you, sir. >> nice to meet you. >> you've been a ceo of a fortune 500 company. >> yes, sir. >> and you're considering a run for the presidency? >> yes, sir. >> do you believe there's a glass ceiling in american business and politics, and if so, what would you do about it? >> well, you know, i hate that term, glass ceiling, because it implies that there's this invisible barrier. you can't see it until you bump your head on it and that hasn't been my experience. i started out as a secretary. a secretary in a nine-person real estate firm. and i got on my path to business because two men in that office came up to me and said we think you could do more than type and file. do you want to know what we do? they mentored me, took a chance on me, gave me a helping hand. in all my career, all my life people have taken a chance for me. it's also true that it's still different for women in some ways. women in positions of authorities are caricatured differently, scrut