i think what general breedlove has said is about 40,000 russian troops along the border. and these are troops that deployed there from specific bases deeper in russia. there's another count that's been used by the ukrainian government civility which is about 88 or -- itself, which is about 88 or 80,000. these are troops normally based in western russia. i think there's a justification or reason for the differences in counting. but the key is that there are way more troops than russia needs along the border with ukraine. that's the key thing. now, the first question, again, was about, remind me, the -- >> well, it -- it's really about that discrepancies between the numbers. but talking militarily, breedlove and some eastern european leaders are asking for more military support, including some redeployment of nato troops. and i guess the question is would that escalation of matters be too provocative or even dangerous? >> no. we have to be sure we understand what he's talking about, doing things within nato and moving troops within nato and forces around. and this is comple

as general breedlove noted, there may be some new opportunities for a rotational basis of forces.no decisions have been made and we will continue to discuss these issues as nato is discussing these issues. >> this is for secretary hagel. askuld like to [indiscernible] today in washington, we will , but also details within the framework of solidarity and partnership. we are interested in long-term solutions as well. with whatappy secretary hagel today expresses. >> for both of you. mr., now that a russian fighter jet has a essentially buzzed a u.s. navy warship, and your own aggressive and provocative, what options does the united states navy have when the russians do this? call theou not russians and tell them to cut it out and not do it again? what sort of self-defense does the navy have against russia? and for the minister, sir, the bottom line for poland right now -- poland has been through the 90's and the soviets. how concerned -- has been and thethe nazis soviets. how concerned is your country that russia could march on poland? know thati think you our military did raise thi

we've got about 57,000 or so troops currently stationed in europe, and jonah breedlove, -- general breedlove was tasked to come up with for the reassurance steps we may take with our european partners to help reassure our central eastern european allies this would not be unilateral u.s. steps the steps we take as many of the nato alliance. and he'll be reporting on the plane next week and will be working that through the nato alliance. i don't foresee major changes in our government footprint in europe. i think that what we are trying to explore a ways that we can leverage some of the rotational deployment that we've undertaken. for example, the poland aviation detachment which is a relatively modest investment, and it's a very small permanent footprint but it's very significant for our polish partners transitioning through f-16 or c-130 to put their training, the ways we can all get and build on that i think, the way we can have a forward presence and will close with a partners and help build the capability but it will also be efficient in these budget austere times. >> hole and had request

as you know, general breedlove, our allied commander has been tasked by nay tto to come up wi new additionalions. he will be reporting those options become to me as well as, as, to nato. so -- we don't take anything for granted. >> hagel also says that over time western sanctions and russia's isolation from the world community will prove cost low for moscow. >> u.s. president barack obama is pledging to do more to address mental illness among military veterans. that's because for the second time in less than five years, mr. obama traveled to fort hood, texas to honor the memory of u.s. army soldiers killed in a shooting there. army officials say the soldier accused of fatally shooting three people before killing himself last week had recently been examined by a psychiatrist. >> today four american soldiers are gone. four army families are devastated. as commander-in-chief, i'm determined that we will continue to step up our efforts to reach our troops and veterans who are hurting, to deliver to them the care that they need and to make sure that we never stigmatize those who have the courage

general phillip breedlove, i want to read a little bit of it to you.hom that groups of armed men in masks suddenly sprang forward from the population in eastern ukraine and systemically began to occupy government facilities. it's hard to fathom, because it's simply not true. general breedlove, very directly going on to say that he believes and nato believes russia is behind some of these provocations that we are seeing in the region, some of the violence taking over certain areas. the pentagon believes that russian special forces are very much in eastern ukraine right now and they say they don't have total proof, but they look at the pictures of the people fighting there, their uniforms, their weapons, their discipline, how they are acting, how they are operating, and the u.s. has come to the very firm conclusion at this point that russia is behind much of the provocation in the region. wolf? >> and explain, barbara, what the defense secretary, chuck hagel, meant today when he said the u.s. would start providing some non-lethal military equipment to uk

air force general philip breedlove is nato's top military commander pretty he is likely to prevent --ent lance for nato to strengthen their position. troopsig deployment of that they want to send a message to nato members that they will be there for them and also send a message to moscow. >> thank you so much. tesco has had a tough past 12 months. the stock is down over 25%. what will it take to turn around? ♪ >> welcome back to on the move. i am francine lacqua. we are 30 minutes in be trading day so let's see how things are shaping up. this is the picture for the overall markets. we had a rally in the tech stocks yesterday in the u.s.. we also had a bit of a disappointing day out of china, but a lot of investors on the markets are seeing this as an economy that is under control. looser thanle bit it was under control by the government a couple of quarters ago. they are not too worried about a hard landing. the dax getting 1.07%. let's go to manus cranny. you find green, i find the contra stories. quarter for asml. uncertainties in terms of design of what they will want. credit suiss

. >> general breedlove has been tasked by n.a.t.o. to come up with additional measures and options. he'll report those back to me, as well as to n.a.t.o. we don't take anything for granted. >> for more, we are adjourned from ukraine by buzzfeed's mike giglio. the ukrainian government ejected protesters from government buildings and other parts of eastern ukraine. demonstrators are holding on, and they captured sunday in donetsk. you have been in there and talking to these people. they told you that russia is not paying them. are ukranian officials going to try to evict them? >> i think officials are playing it safe. the governor gave a press conference and walked back the friday deadline, and reiterated that they don't want to escalate the situation. with the amount of people in the building, armed with clubs. there are reports and i heard officials say they may have weapons. there's a sense that a move by the police would escalate things. and the government will try to avoid that. >> let's talk about the military situation. you went out with ukrainian fors on wednesday, and the mes

general philip breedlove tells cnn's christiane amanpour, the russian troops along ukraine's easternrder are poised to move and could do so in as little as 12 hours. phil black is live in moscow. phil, just a few days ago, it seemed that vladimir putin was trying to pull or planning to pull those troops back, but still high alert this morning that an invasion could be imminent. what has changed? >> reporter: christine, i guess that's the point, nothing has changed. it has been a significant week diplomatically with russia pushing a possible diplomatic solution, russia suggesting a partial withdraw of forces from that area near the ukrainian border. the nato assessment of russia's capability in that area hasn't changed, that remains, 40,000-plus soldiers at a high state of readiness with all the logistics and support necessary to move into ukraine with pretty much no warning. now they've put a figure on it. in less than 12 hours, which in military terms is really nothing, they say they have seen no evidence of a significant drawdown of forces at that border area. russia's position pub

invaluable to the ukrainians as they mount this counteroffensive and that's the view as some like general breedlovece information with ukraine, the same reason i think is the fear of the u.s. providing weapons to ukraine. even defensive weapons. they could wind up in the wrong hands. >> yes, and the two things kind of go hand in hand. if you provide information that's too tactical, then there's a chance, at least, that the ukrainians could launch a preemptive strike. it seems unlikely given the fact they're severely outmatched by the russians. if that would happen, it would provoke a war they hope doesn't happen in that respect. nonetheless, there's been a concern. >> anything special expected to emerge from vice president biden's visit there? he's going this weekend. >> i'm not going on that visit. vice president biden going there is symbolically significant, way of saying the u.s. stands with ukraine. you see it the assets being deployed that jim talked about and potentially the new sanctions as a way to create deterrence with russia while also giving them an exit ramp. >> eli lake reporting for

they have given europe air force general philip breedlove until 15th of april to come up with a plan to reas shew allies. they say europe is facing the gravest threat to its security in a generation. nato is reinforcing already including poland, latvia. we report now from the baltic state. >> reporter: every day they're on alert. this is an exercise. here in lithuania it really matters. the baltic states are increasingly nervous over the behavior of their big neighbor rush. >> i can't say cold war. very hot war, rush yas they concentrate their forces and i think it should be to defend our states. >> reporter: these f 15s can be scrambled within minutes. it's not just about reassuring the baltic states, but about sending a clear message to russ russia. the baltics don't have much of an air force so they remind on nato partners to take turns controlling their skies. normally there are just four warplanes. this month the americans have sent ten and there are offers of more planes, too. >> nato has a great responsibility across its entire spectrum of its aerospace. maintaining sovereign

the manneder of nato forces, general phillip breedlove said this on friday. "what's happening in eastern ukraine is a military operation that is well planned and well organized, and we assess that it is being carried out at the direction of russia." president obama's national security advisor, susan rice, added this. >> we expect russian indeed is to use that influence to try to de-escalate and diffuse the situation. >> again, i fully understand what it is that you are saying about kiev. i'm asking you a direct question. one weather can russia get the militias to stand down, and, two, will you? >> first of all, we are going to do whatever is necessary in order to see the geneva agreement implemented because it's in the best interest of ukrainians. it's in the best interest of everybody, including ourselves. it has to be a process that includes all as a part of this effort we are going to work diligently with all the parties involved, and i would underline once again the word all militias need to be disarmed. >> i want to talk to you about a disturbing inciden

what happens important, and general breedlove indicated this, there's needs 0 to be more military sharingd there needs to be some additional force plus ups within nato so putin understands that if any more aggressive action were to take place on his heart, nato's in position to be more aggressive and possibly do something more about it. when you look at what we did in 2002, we built up forces in kuwait and prepared and executed the liberation of iraq. what we're seeing in russia right now is not dissimilar to what we saw in kuwait back in 2002, then with the invasion of 2003. why we're not paying attention to that military i don't know. i don't know why we've taken that opportunity to do something that's very dem month strative that can putin can understand off the table. >> if there are stronger sanctions and i hear what the general's saying, can have that an immediate, can that make an immediate difference or is this something that's going to take time? >> any kind of sanctions that would further separate elements of the russian economy, particularly banking sector, could potentially de

>> we're always vigilant, always looking at options that we need to take, as you know, general breedloveby nato to come up with new and additional measures and options. he will be reporting those options back to me, as well as to nato. so, we don't take anything for granted. >> those options that he's talking about are military option but was not an attack. bit moving u.s. and western assets around ukraine, in secretary hagel's words, to send a strong message to are russia. he says russia's international isolated that will have costs today, near term and long term. he believes as the cost rises russia will change its behavior, move forces back. but, wolf, as you know, we haven't seen that yet. >> not yet. jim, the u.s. and the chinese, they are both helping look for that plane, the missing malaysian airliner but also tension, as we know, behind the scenes. what are you hearing in beijing? >> reporter: you know, it's incredible, wolf. you hear so many conspiracy theories here, many directed at the u.s. talk that the u.s. is hiding information, that it really knows where this plane is. cra

commenting on nato deployments and eastern european states, air force general philip breedlove said he would not "write off involvement by any nation, to include the united states." his comments come ahead of next week's talks between the u.s., and theukraine, european union. in washington, the state department spokesperson played down the expectations. >> the russians agreed they would finally sit down over the next 10 days with ukraine and discussnd the u.s. to de-escalation, demobilization come a support for the elections, and constitutional reform. i have to say we don't have high expectations for these talks, but we do believe it is very important to keep that diplomatic door open. >> israel skill that contact with the palestinian authority in a growing dispute over the future of peace talks. the pa signed 15 international conventions and treaties last week after the israeli government reneged on a plaintiff reposting prisoners. in response, israel says it will suspend cooperation with the pa on most issues except negotiations and policing the west bank. the move comes after secre

nato's top military commander philip breedlove described the moves as defensive measures. we havehe actions that proposed and have been accepted today are clearly defensive in nature. and i think it is going to be very straightforward to see them as defensive in nature. they're designed to assure our allies. and so i think in any case, it is always a chance that you run that something might be misinterpreted. but we specifically designed these measures to assure our be clearly, and to seen as defensive in nature. >> your response? >> i never know what purely defensive weapons have men. resuming their guns but only shoot and one to greg -- presuming they are guns that only shoot in one direction. they're talking about giving the ukrainians small arms, night vision stuff, superior intelligence. they can't give them intelligence information because ukrainian intelligence services -- the tapes we have had, the leaked tapes reveal the real debate going on. this is a distraction. it is what rasmussen said earlier, the political head of nato, that we are building up as we talk, o

we're always looking at the options to take as you know general breedlove will be reporting options back as to nato. so, we don't take anything for granted. >> those options are military options, not an attack but the movement of military assets around ukraine to send, in his words, a strong message to putin. he made the case that there is one cost that russia is suffering at this point and that is international isolation and he believes over time that that isolation will change russia's behavior. the vote in the un where well more than 100 countries voted against crimea. the costs of international isolation has not yet changed russia's behavior. none of the 40,000 troops have moved back from the border on eastern ukraine. he says they will over time. so far that hasn't happened. he's confident that it will. cnn beijing. >> a lot omore of jim's exclusive interview with chuck chuck hagel. >> the u.s. military and navy search for the malaysian airliner as well and he made fascinating comments on that as well. much more on the ukraine and the malaysian airliner search. much more coming up a

and now the commander of europe, breedlove, expressed worry about that. so the key point is putin has many instruments at his disposal other than outright invasion and that is destabilization of ukraine, economically, politically and many other ways to make all the other states around russia very antsy. >> ifill: no one is taking their eye off the ball on. this thank you, margaret and welcome home. >> thank you. >> woodruff: now, a look at a moment when national security interests trumped ethical concerns. jeffrey brown has our book conversation. >> reporter: nazi scientists, some tied to war crimes including horrific concentration camp experiments left the u.s. in a secret program to advance american security interests during the cold war. it sounds like the plot of a film drama but actually happened and on a large scale. the story is told in the new book operation paperclip: the secret intelligence program that brought nazi scientists to america." annie jacobsen joins us. they were sought out by the military as the war was coming to an end. >> these wer

let's see what general breedlove comes back with. >> it feels like we are not the escalating. you worried that it will get worse before it gets better? >> remember, nato was a defensive organization. it is not an offense of organization, not an invading institution. it is to defend the 28 nato countries. that is exactly what we are doing. we want to assure we have adequate defenses to protect those 28 nations that we are all obligated to protect each other. no, i do not think there is any escalation on our part. we told the russians there would be consequences for their actions. we have taken economic sanctions. .he eu, united states we have been very clear about what measures we would take. administrationa misjudged vladimir putin and the challenge posed by russia going forward? >> i do not think anyone misjudged vladimir putin. let's go back to 2008, when putindent clinton -- invaded georgia. this is not a particularly new approach that he has taken. what you always have to do is you always have to be prepared contingency, any possibility. i do not think it was a matter utin

air force general philip breedlove, the top military commander for nato. he is going to present plans for strengthening nato's presence in europe and the baltic states. this is for two reasons. one is to give nato countries more of a sense of security, given what is happening in ukraine. secondly, it is a pretty direct message to moscow as well. >> david, thank you very much indeed. of theweed keeping track situation in eastern ukraine. >> today, credit suisse reported results that missed estimates. profit fell 34%, mostly from declines in the investment banking unit. jonathan ferro joins us with the details. you spoke to the chief executives. >> i did. the ongoing question for credit suisse, you break down the numbers, the story is in the numbers. wealth management continues to perform. and investment banking, profits continue to decline. bear in mind, that is not just a credit suisse problem. that is an industry problem. it is leading the same question to be asked over and over again. should this bank focus on wealth management, change strategy and rain

measures to what the alliance regards to as a russian military threat in ukraine general philip breedlove said that the package of measures aimed at well providing assurance for our eastern most allies he didn't rule out sending extra u.s. troops to the region the nato response is due to be publicly outlined by next tuesday though already it is seriously wiring some in eastern europe. constant deployment of foreign troops on the territory of a sovereign state deprives the country of its independence the national parliament and government have no power over those forces and all of its commanders are foreigners in this case they are most likely to be americans some american soldiers could launch missiles at the russian city of discourse moscow for example and it will be done from these territory and unbeknown to a lot of you know thirty's because an american commander issued the order and one more thing. bruton is nato member great britain. turkey that's also a nato state so judging from events in europe most aggression comes usually from the side of nato countries rather than other states

part of what general breedlove will be coming back to nato and briefing next week is his proposals for the medium to long ,erm, for the rest of this year how, whether by air, land, and sea, nato and our other allies can possibly be -- >> currently, our response to the russian troop buildup of tens of thousands -- hard to say what the exact number is, but tens of thousands of russians troop -- russian troops buildup along the eastern border of ukraine is a couple hundred and dozens. does that -- do you really think that will change vladimir putin's calculations question mark >> -- calculations? we have been seeking with our allies -- >> isn't it true that russian officials mock the sanctions? >> secretary kerry said there was some chatter of mocking. these sanctions pinch. as the president made clear when he announced the latest round of sanctions, it is not the limit of what we can do. there are further things we can furtherit is clear the we go, the greater ramifications it could have on us. that said, we've made very clear to the russian government that we stand by our commitment whe

. >> the nato supreme allied commander, general breedlove, said a buildup of nato force the in the area could be made. >> the military option is not really available in ukraine. what we need to do is strengthen ukraine's ability to have the strong economy, to further transition into europe, to work with the west, to build their economy and show, including the people in crimea, that their future is best with the united ukraine integrated into europe. that's our principal strategy. we will also do everything we can to prevent any further tragedies, as far as loss of human life. but we don't want to heat up the circumstances. we're trying to calm it down. >> sir, let's turn back home now and talk about the unemployment insurance. the senate bill to restore the benefits passed last monday with bipartisan support. house leadership said they won't consider a bill like this until it includes job creation measures. what is your next move? >> we hope that there will be public outrage by what speaker boehner has said about passing the extension on unemployment benefits. it's correct president oba

the origin continent and it's interesting to know that the head of nato easton operations general breedlove his name is he said time and time again in his views about russia very negative comments about the country so one how much sort of influence does that have when a chief of that standing has those sort of personal thoughts well. we always have to keep in mind that nato is primarily. for american foreign policy and he does his job. and that tool or the ambitions of nato is foreign policy is it fair to say that its ambitions are to encircle russia well. if you look to the hundreds some people speak about one thousand. bases around the world then you must have the impression that it's a sort of mother of russia and the only one sort of promoter of russia of all sort of an assortment of china. and so how would nato expect then moscow to react to the very fact it is being encircled by nato bases. sorry could you could you repeat the question surely if if it is a fact that nato is in circling russia surely nato should be expecting some sort of response from moscow. well. the only thing mosco