yeah, so yes, brenda jackson is one of about 1500 of people who are still in prison on these not unanimous jury convictions and, and, and in it because because the united states from court did not mandate retro activity for the state. ah, but he is not entitled to a new new trial. ah. now there are other ways to go about ensuring that he gets a new trial in the state legislature. they could pass a law which is jamilla is, is actively working towards. but this last legislative session they, they declined to do it. and then another way is if the district attorney in a specific parish decides that that they are independently going to go back and grant new trials to it for these people. and that's something that da williams has begun to do um and is, is a sort of in the process of reviewing those cases, we can get him to the details of that, i'm sure, but in both repairs were branded, jackson was convicted, the da is not doing that and has said that he is his opposed to a new trafford, brenda, i've actually got a lot of it. i'll show you in just a moment, which the latter is the an incentive t

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i'm sure, but in both the repairs were branded, jackson was convicted, the da is not doing that and has said that he is his opposed to a new trafford, brenda. i've actually got a letter, which i'll show you in just a moment, which the latter is that, i mean, it's been sent it to for for eyes. but he said jeremy young. it is impossible to speculate with any degree of certainty whether mister jackson's verdict would have been any different, had the joey being charged with you, not unanimity, my office will not very tight and retry conviction solely because of a non unanimous verdict. making this reporting that happened on the jim crow convictions in 4 lines. we have from a black jewelry jimmy, you about to say something, and then i'm going to have in the black, joanne, because it's the pressure of ah, here is my voice. here are my doubts, but because you don't have to have all 12 come to the same decision. jamila go ahead pick up. no, i mean in this exact situation, we do have a juror who said that he did not believe that brandon jackson is guilty. and so to have a response like that from a district attorney that they, we don't know what cou