joining us from capitol hill this morning is representative brenda lawrence, democratic of michigan, sits on the oversight and reform committee. congresswoman, there was a headline in the papers about your position on impeachment. where it said that you had favored censure over impeachment. removing the president from office. what is your position? >> my position has been the same. the president's behavior, understand this is rnot a desir or wish of the democratic party, it is our responsibility to follow the constitution. i have been in favor of impeachment based on the president's behavior. i had made a statement that i think it would be totally a miss carrying of justice if the senate just absoflz the president of this behavior. clearly they can see what he did was wrong, inviting a foreign government into investigating an american citizen where we have a cia and fbi, if the president felt that there was corruption, that was within his ring. but to invite a foreign government and withhold funds was an impeachable act. what i said is that the senate at minimum should consider censu

host: brenda lawrence, democrat of michigan we thank you for your time this morning.ack to our phone calls with all of you. show in waterford, michigan, democratic caller. good morning. caller: good morning. i just wanted to say yesterday i watched all of it and he definitely should be impeached. he is impeached so that's the way it is and he says he is so transparent, he is because we know exactly what he is doing. host: manteno, illinois, independent. call toi wanted to unite the country, first of all i want you to know i went to the same university as president and it was founded by benjamin franklin and many of the graduates there. this is the country at its best. and we should not hate each other, we should understand this is what benjamin franklin designed this in our constitution that we have to have debate and what we are doing is right, we should not make an argument about which one is right, which one is wrong. except this is not what you get in other countries. they arecountries terrible, i came for those countries. they don't have rights, they don't have a

here and i am in my fourth term i cochair the women's caucus last summer and right now we have brenda lawrence cochair the women's caucus we tried. the women in my experience have tried to find more common ground than fighting against each othe other. because of that lois and i lead in the house the bill from the last congress protecting young athletes from sexual abuse the us gymnasts that were sexually assaulted by doctor nasser leading the charge in the house to change those protocols and the training along with diane feinstein so we were taking those issues of mortality that involved women and girls with the usaid funding is a strategy to keep women and girls in school beyond elementary school all around the world and these are the types of things we feel good about there will always be the outliers and they get the attention from the media but at the end of the day the real work is done by women but knock on wood. and then leading those efforts that is very different than how it's done in the past or in this country. >> starting with the news of the day so we have to talk about that today

. >> i want to show you a quote from a member of congress in michigan and brenda lawrence said this, we are so close to the election and i will tell you that sitting here seeing how divided the country is i don't see the value of taking him out of office, but i see the value of putting down a marker of saying it is not acceptable. that is one way of looking at the american people, and they are listening to everything and torn on the election as opposed to this, and they are split in this and you have a democratic member in your own state who didn't go through the procedure, and he is from a trump district. is that what you hear? >> let me talk about how i see this. yes, it is a legal impeachment proceeding and it could result in him being thrown out of office, and that is true, but i see it as part of a bigger pattern, and the pattern is this. he betrays the trust of the american people and he puts his private interest and the business interests and the partisan political interests in front of the country and that is what you get. that is why you see him going tout rally for the oppo

who said this, brenda lawrence, democrat, said this. we're so close to an election, sitting here knowing how divided the country is, i don't see the value of taking him out of office, but i do see the value in putting down a marker saying his behavior is not certainly. you see people sort of, people who are actually listening to everything are torn on the election as opposed to this. are split in this. you have a democratic member in your own state, collin peterson, who didn't vote to go through the procedure. he's from a trump district. is that what you hear? >> let me talk about how i see this. yes, this is a legal impeachment proceeding. and it could result in him being thrown out of office. that is true. but i see this as part of a bigger pattern. and the pattern is this. he betrays the trust of the american people. he puts his private interests, he puts his business interests, his partisan political interests in front of our country. that's what people get. that's whyia see, for instance, the fact that he went out there and rallied

women, i cochaired the women's caucus last congress with lois frankel, and right now we've got brenda lawrence and debbie lesko cochairing the women's caucus. we try, the women in my experience have tried to find more common grounds and fighting against each other. i don't think you see the catfight. i think because of that work, lois and i lead in the house the bill the last congress that keeping the young athletes, protecting young athletes from sexual abuse, are u.s. gymnasts that had been sexually assaulted by doctor nasser, we led the charge in the house to change those protocols and to change that training in our olympic movement. that was along with dianne feinstein and susan collins in the house. so we are taking, those really serious issues in term of mortality issues, but particular that involve women and girls. we are trying, lois and i are co- leading on keeping young girls in education act, making sure the usaid funding, that the strategies in this country that keep women and girls rather in school beyond elementary school. all around the country. all around the world rather. and

term and i co-chaired the women's caucus last congress with lois frankel and right now we've got brenda lawrence and debby lesko co-chairing the women's caucus. we've tried-- the women in my experience have tried to find more common ground than fighting against each other. i don't think you see the cat fight. i think, you know, because of that work, lois and i led in the house the bill the last congress to keeping young athletes, protecting young athletes from sexual abuse. our u.s. gymnasts that had been, you know, sexually assaulted by dr. nassar, we led the house to change that protocol ap change that training in our u.s. olympic movement along with dianne feinstein and susan collins in the house so we're talking those really serious issues, maternal mortality, those issues that particularly involved women and girls, we're trying, lois and i, and our co-lead and keeping the young girls in education act. making sure our strategies in the countries have-- strategies that keep women or girls, rather, in school beyond elementary school all around the country and all around the world, rather, and

and i cochaired the women's caucus last congress with lois frankel -- and right now we've got brenda lawrencend debby lesko co-chairing the women's caucus. we have tried -- the women, in my experience, have tried to find more common ground than fighting against each other. i don't think you see the cat fight. i think, you know, because of that work, lois and i led in the house the bill the last congress to keeping young athletes, protecting young athletes from sexual abuse. our u.s. gymnasts that had been, you know, sexually assaulted by dr. nassar, we led the house to change those particles in our -- to that training change those protocols and change that training in our u.s. along withement, dianne feinstein and susan collins in the house. so we're talking those really serious issues, maternal mortality, those issues that particularly involved women and girls, we're trying, lois and i, and our co-lead and keeping the young girls in education act. making sure our strategies in the countries have-- strategies that keep women or girls, rather, in school beyond elementary school all around the