it lists christopher figuroa, brendan barthal, it's all there, may 1, 2012, john escobedo >> may i respond to that, please? >> would you please come forward? >> my client purchased the property in december of 2012. >> thank you. >> other questions? >> commissioners, the matter is submitted. >> oh, boy, fun, fun. . >> the question is whether you think the interim controls apply or not. >> not quite what that argument -- i think, you know, as in all appeals a lot of things are thrown out and it's our job to wade through it and see exactly what is pertinent and for me then there's two things here. one is that i'm in total agreement with the za that a principlely permitted use, however it was illegally converted or not, still remains. and i think that's a tenet that has been around forever. and therefore i'm not challenging that particular element of it. and all the other arguments made by both sides on a number of things, there's only one which is alluded to that resonates with me and that's because this is only dealing with the za's release of suspension. i think that the question of whether