brendan clark retreated the cli of contempt. brendan clark retreated the clip of that _ contempt.ark retreated the clip of that interview posted byj the clip of that interview posted by newsnight, adding, i'm standing but i think is right. but kate spoke for many saying, i have to say that victoria derbyshire was incredible in this interview, she knew every detail of everything came back sharp and fair every time. a master class political interviewing. the day afterjust political interviewing. the day after just a's political interviewing. the day afterjust a's knife attack in nottingham, which saw the death of ian coates, barnaby webber, and grace 0'malley,, a vigil was held in the city that was attended by thousands. your mac that vigil held in memory of two of the three victims who died in yesterday's attacks is due to get under way shortly. attacks is due to get under way shortl . , ., ., , , attacks is due to get under way shortl . , . . , , ., , shortly. understandably, there has been a very — shortly. understandably, there has been a very sombre _ shortly. understandably, t

one of the mps out supporting boris johnson on the airwaves on thursday was brendan clarke—smith, whoictoria derbyshire on newsnight. borisjohnson corrected the record, at least a couple of times. no, not according to the committee's report today. are you sure you've read? which which specific bits are we referring to? they said he purported to come to the commons and correct the statement, but they weren't satisfied he had. that was another contempt. brendan clarke—smith retweeted the clip of that interview posted by newsnight, adding, "i am standing up for what i think is right". but kay spoke for many in writing, "got to say victoria derbyshire was incredible in this interview". "she knew every detail of her brief and came back sharp and fair every time". "a masterclass in political interviewing". the day after tuesday's knife attack in nottingham, which saw the deaths of ian coates, barnaby webber and grace o'malley kumar. a vigil was held in the city attended by thousands. it was broadcast live on the bbc�*s news channel and rajini vaidyanathan was there. that vigil in memory of

that's brendan clarke—smith . and that's brendan clarke—smith.. two of those at the party were named in boris johnson's resignation honours list. the conservatives say disciplinary action has already been taken . rishi sunak is been taken. rishi sunak is facing a fourth by—election following the resignation of a former tory mp, david warburton , who had the tory whip suspended last april, has stepped down from his summer town and frome seat following allegations of sexual misconduct and cocaine use. he's the fourth tory mp in eight days to resign following the announcements by bods following the announcements by boris johnson. nigel adams and nadine dorries . teachers in nadine dorries. teachers in england will hold fresh strikes next month in their long running dispute over pay . the national dispute over pay. the national education union has announced walkouts on wednesday the fifth and friday. the 7th of july. the nea is also reballoting its members to see if they want to continue taking industrial action for the rest of the year . if you've b

brendan clarke—smith is here. ijust want with us. brendan clarke—smith is here.n's here. i just want to tell you more about borisjohnson�*s statement. he said... "this was a dreadful day for mps and democracy. "this decision means no mp is free from vendetta or expulsion on trumped up charges by a tiny minority who want to see him or her gone from the commons." let's talk to brendan clarke—smith, who was elected as mp for bassetlaw in 2019 — a seat that had been labour since the 1930s. he credits mrjohnson for that win. how do you respond to louise bennett? i how do you respond to louise bennett? . , , ., ., bennett? i am very sorry to hear about fred — bennett? i am very sorry to hear about fred and _ bennett? i am very sorry to hear about fred and you _ bennett? i am very sorry to hear about fred and you have - bennett? i am very sorry to hear about fred and you have my - bennett? i am very sorry to hear - about fred and you have my sympathy and as a parent, it must be the worst thing in the world. i was believed during covid as well. exacerbated by the fact th

but also one of the people named in this report, brendan clark smith, says that it does raise serious that what was really going on here is not a matter of freedom of speech, it was at an attempt to alter their decision. there were floods of comments calling for them to step aside. thank you. back to the top story and the unrest in paris. 180 people have been arrested by paris and many have been marching the streets in protest after the killing of a 17—year—old boy in the city. more on that story now, crossing likely paris to my colleague who is there. bring us up to date with what has been happening in paris over the last hour or so. we have just arrived in paris over the last hour or so. we havejust arrived here, and this is where some of the people streamed through earlier today that much. you can hear an through earlier today that much. you can hearan ambience through earlier today that much. you can hear an ambience going past was not in the distance, you can see, perhaps, some of the smoke that is in the distance. it seems that there have been some instances of trouble in the af

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plenty of conservative mps were missing too, including brendan clarke—smith, who told this programmend he would vote against it. he tweeted today he'd be watching the ashes instead. one person whose view we don't know is that of the prime minister. let's talk to nick in central lobby, where mps are just leaving after the vote. tell us what happens tonight. well, victoria, tell us what happens tonight. well, victoria. as — tell us what happens tonight. well, victoria. as you _ tell us what happens tonight. well, victoria, as you say, _ tell us what happens tonight. well, victoria, as you say, in _ tell us what happens tonight. well, victoria, as you say, in the - tell us what happens tonight. well, victoria, as you say, in the last - victoria, as you say, in the last hour or so, victoria, as you say, in the last hour orso, mps victoria, as you say, in the last hour or so, mps voted overwhelmingly to declare that borisjohnson deliberately misled the house of commons over those downing street parties by 354 votes to seven, but i have to say it all happened after some parliamentary shena

i am joined by brendan clark smith, conservative mp. andyjohnson supporter.ff them is the equivalent of putting somebody in the stocks and touring them around the stocks and touring them around the country — the stocks and touring them around the country. i think borisjohnson, he gave _ the country. i think borisjohnson, he gave a — the country. i think borisjohnson, he gave a very good account of himself — he gave a very good account of himself. he explained a lot of things — himself. he explained a lot of things. of the crystal ball is there and if— things. of the crystal ball is there and if he — things. of the crystal ball is there and if he can obviously see into his mind _ and if he can obviously see into his mind and _ and if he can obviously see into his mind and have decided he is guilty of whatever it is. —— they can obviously— of whatever it is. —— they can obviously see into his mind. no court _ obviously see into his mind. no court of— obviously see into his mind. no court of law would accept this. we have _ court of law would accept this. we hav

and today brendan today it's tory mp brendan clarke—smith. and 17, and that weepeew whe— do between 2015 and 17, and that was respect the referendum weeah. — was respect the referendum weeah. so— was respect the referendum weeah. so w— was respect the referendum result. so i do— was respect the referendum result. so i do hope the legacy whaw— result. so i do hope the legacy that he— result. so i do hope the legacy that he wen— result. so i do hope the legacy that is left behind— result. so i do hope the legacy that is left behind is not going to he— that is left behind is not going to he waeheh— that is left behind is not going to be wasted. but— that is left behind is not going to be wasted. but certainly as a as to be wasted. but certainly as a ae a eowweaeae.— to be wasted. but certainly as a as a colleague, i'm— to be wasted. but certainly as a as a colleague, i'm very, very aheahhohnaea— as a colleague, i'm very, very disappointed to— as a colleague, i'm very, very disappointed to see him go and eeoeehawwy— disappointed to see him go and

, all at— dorries, brendan clarke—smith, all at tnese— dorries, brendan clarke—smith, all of these good— these people i the committee do you have-issue with- these people i the committee do you have issue with fact you have an issue with the fact tnat— you have an issue with the fact tnat semant— you have an issue with the fact that bernard broke that bernard jenkin broke lacttawn— that bernard jenkin broke - lockdown—that's lockdown rules? i think that's a completely theresa may breaking lockdown harman lockdown rules. harriet harman said she said said perception. she said perception is important and i will step aside if this is going to hinder the committee's work. they said, go ahead. we need they said, no, go ahead. we need to have faith. we need to restore faith. i'll just note ttt— restore faith. i'll just note t-ll-nate— restore faith. i'll just note i'll-note-nicholll restore faith. i'll just note i i'll-note-nicholl has i'll just note amy nicholl has no i'll just note amy nicholl has na-wttn— i'll just note amy nicholl has no -with bernard- i'll just note amy nicholl has no wit

, all at— dorries, brendan clarke—smith, all at tnese— dorries, brendan clarke—smith, all of these good— these people i the committee do you have-issue with- these people i the committee do you have issue with fact you have an issue with the fact tnat— you have an issue with the fact tnat semant— you have an issue with the fact that bernard broke that bernard jenkin broke lacttawn— that bernard jenkin broke - lockdown—that's lockdown rules? i think that's a completely theresa may breaking lockdown harman lockdown rules. harriet harman said she said said perception. she said perception is important and i will step aside if this is going to hinder the committee's work. they said, go ahead. we need they said, no, go ahead. we need to have faith. we need to restore faith. i'll just note ttt— restore faith. i'll just note t-ll-nate— restore faith. i'll just note i'll-note-nicholll restore faith. i'll just note i i'll-note-nicholl has i'll just note amy nicholl has no i'll just note amy nicholl has na-wttn— i'll just note amy nicholl has no -with bernard- i'll just note amy nicholl has no wit

because some of those who have been accused of this interference like brendan clark smith, have framed jenny does not like that! folks saying the _ think... jenny does not like that! folks saying the committee - think... jenny does not like that! folks saying the committee wasl folks saying the committee was trying to shut down of freedom of speech, it is stunning to me. they did not have to interfere, they could keep their mouth shut, they could keep their mouth shut, they could choose to say, let the committee do its work, and we will wait until the committee makes its report for subti to interfere and such edible people, mp5 who should know better, reminds me of the error that... it is a global problem. it is people in positions of power taking air above the law, they are untouchable, and when they do things, they're not consequences, things, they're not consequences, things like medal where they should not meddle. i am glad borisjohnson is gone, let mejust not meddle. i am glad borisjohnson is gone, let me just tell you this, because i think partygate is something that is the bigge

—smith to priti rarer— brendan clarke—smith to priti rarer ro— brendan clarke—smith to priti patel too. but coming up after the break, it has been a arsasrrous— up after the break, it has been a disastrous few— up after the break, it has been a disastrous few days for harry ana— a disastrous few days for harry and nognan.— a disastrous few days for harry and meghan. they have lost their ozo— and meghan. they have lost their ozo nruron— and meghan. they have lost their $20 million spotify deal. they nays— $20 million spotify deal. they navo noon— $20 million spotify deal. they have been called— $20 million spotify deal. they have been called grifters. so unar-s— have been called grifters. so was near— have been called grifters. so what's next for— have been called grifters. so what's next for the couple? and is rnrs— what's next for the couple? and is rnrs au— what's next for the couple? and is rnrs au narr— what's next for the couple? and is this all part of— what's next for the couple? and is this all part of meghan's oran— is this all part of meghan's gran ro— is this all part of

—smith to priti horer— brendan clarke—smith to priti horer ro— brendan clarke—smith to priti patelreak,— the media buzz, too. but coming up after the break, it has been a up after the break, it has been o hreoerrowe— up after the break, it has been a disastrous few— up after the break, it has been a disastrous few days for harry ohh— a disastrous few days for harry ohh hehhoh.— a disastrous few days for harry and meghan. they have lost their ozo— and meghan. they have lost their hzo hhhoh— and meghan. they have lost their $20 million spotify deal. they howe— $20 million spotify deal. they howe heeh— $20 million spotify deal. they have been called— $20 million spotify deal. they have been called grifters. so whore— have been called grifters. so whor-e herr— have been called grifters. so what's next for— have been called grifters. so what's next for the couple? and is what's next for the couple? and he he— what's next for the couple? and he ohh ohh— what's next for the couple? and he ohh ohh poh— what's next for the couple? and is this all part of— what's next for the couple? and is

now, brendan clarke—smith said.for him end us you sov— huge amount of respect for him and as you say, we— huge amount of respect for him and as you say, we achieved some verv— and as you say, we achieved some very greet— and as you say, we achieved some very greet tntngs— and as you say, we achieved some very great things there and nvselt— very great things there and myself personally, i've seen some fantastic— myself personally, i've seen some fantastic things that i never thought— some fantastic things that i never thought we'd actually neneged— never thought we'd actually managed achieve and there was managed to achieve and there was a managed to achieve and there was eirnore— managed to achieve and there was eirnore tnet— managed to achieve and there was eirnoe tnet vve— managed to achieve and there was a more that we wanted to do. a lot more that we wanted to do. and— a lot more that we wanted to do. and tne— a lot more that we wanted to do. and tne reports— a lot more that we wanted to do. and the reports come

now, brendan clarke—smith said.ct for him ent oe vow— huge amount of respect for him ent oe vow eav— huge amount of respect for him and as you say, we— huge amount of respect for him and as you say, we achieved some verv— and as you say, we achieved some verv greet— and as you say, we achieved some verv greet tntnee— and as you say, we achieved some very great things there and nveett— very great things there and myself personally, i've seen some fantastic— myself personally, i've seen some fantastic things that i never thought— some fantastic things that i never thought we'd actually nonoeet— never thought we'd actually managed achieve and there was managed to achieve and there was a managed to achieve and there was oirnore— managed to achieve and there was oinoe tnot— managed to achieve and there was oirnoe tnot we— managed to achieve and there was a more that we wanted to do. a lot more that we wanted to do. ant— a lot more that we wanted to do. ant tne— a lot more that we wanted to do. ant tne reporte— a lot more

we heard it a bit brendan heard it a bit from brendan clarke—smith— heard it a bit from brendan- clarke—smith_duringtation of rule treattnt— different interpretation of rule breaking than— different interpretation of rule breaking than the metropolitan nottse— breaking than the metropolitan rouse-tonn- breaking than the metropolitan police-tom, thank- breaking than the metropolitani police-tom, thank you. police. okay, tom, thank you. let's talk to michael simmons from the spectator. afternoon to you, michael. is this someone getting their comeuppance at last or is it a witch hunt? well , i think last or is it a witch hunt? well, i think in a weird way, last or is it a witch hunt? - well, i think in a weird way, it nttnt— well, i think in a weird way, it nttnt stttntty— well, i think in a weird way, it might slightly be— well, i think in a weird way, it might slightly be both. i think you san— might slightly be both. i think you toot— might slightly be both. i think you can look at— might slightly be both. i think you can look at the evidence and most— you can look at the evidence and most reasonabl

now the conservative mp brendan clarke—smith has been seeking— brendan clarke—smith has been seekingit is. you know, there was- it is. you know, there was a sisrv— it is. you know, there was a sisrv in— it is. you know, there was a sisrv in ine— it is. you know, there was a story in the papers last innrsiev— story in the papers last thursday that story in the papers last thursday-that didn't thursday saying that they didn't inrnr— thursday saying that they didn't inianwes— thursday saying that they didn't thinklwas even— thursday saying that they didn't think was even going to be a think it was even going to be a ten think it was even going to be a ien siev— think it was even going to be a ten day suspension. in fact, i wrsie— ten day suspension. in fact, i vsie-ii.— ten day suspension. in fact, i wrsie-ii. ani- ten day suspension. in fact, i wrote it. and then, of wrote about it. and then, of course,-out-in| wrote about it. and then, of. course,-out-in the course, it came out later in the day- — course, it came out later in the day- ssnis— course, it came out later in the sev. nsris

one of the mps out supporting borisjohnson on the airwaves on thursday was brendan clarke—smith, who broadcast live on the bbc�*s news channel and rajini vaidyanathan was there. that vigil in memory of two of the three victims who died in yesterday's attacks is due to get under way shortly. understandably, there's been a very sombre mood here at the university of nottingham. what followed offended a number of newswatch viewers, including aj manzi, who wondered: pete morgan agreed: nobody was available from bbc news to discuss those points, but we were given this statement. on saturday night, many football fans would have been following the progress of manchester city in their attempt to win the champions league final and therefore complete the treble, having already won the premier league and the fa cup. fair, perhaps, to assume that that group didn't include viewers of nick robinson's political thinking, in which he was interviewing baroness louise casey on the bbc news channel. for most of the programme, those watching were kept updated of the score but, with a couple of minutes to

this from brendan clarke smith. _ whatsapp. this from brendan clarke smith. of— whatsapp.is whatsapp group. it you-re ot— images of this whatsapp group. it youre or my— images of this whatsapp group. if you're of my parents generation,— if you're of my parents generation, let me tell you, vvnotsapp— generation, let me tell you, whatsapp group is basically messages on your phone and it's a messages on your phone and it's o soiiestion— messages on your phone and it's a collection of— messages on your phone and it's a collection of individuals in a group. — a collection of individuals in a group. inis— a collection of individuals in a group. this would— a collection of individuals in a group. this would be the parliamentary- group. this would be the parliamentary conservative party and parliamentary conservative party ont tons— parliamentary conservative party and boris johnson,— parliamentary conservative party and boris johnson, a man that teiiveret— and boris johnson, a man that delivered such— and boris johnson, a man that delivered such a— and boris johnson, a man that d

—smith , fabricant brendan clarke—smith, kebbn— fabricant brendan clarke—smith, kebbnracob— fabricantthe disrupted the first day of the second — disrupted the first day of the second ashes— disrupted the first day of the second ashes test, what's being bone— second ashes test, what's being bone-bb— second ashes test, what's being done-it happening- second ashes test, what's being done it happening again done to stop it happening again live done to stop it happening again bvo-bores— done to stop it happening again bbve-borb-s .— will oh, | will - oh, we've lubbb- oh, we've so lubbb— oh, we've so much to do in this secbbon— oh, we've so much to do in this secbbon of— oh, we've so much to do in this section of the— oh, we've so much to do in this section of the program. we've got— section of the program. we've gob pobbbcab— section of the program. we've got political commentator norman baker— got political commentator norman baker vbbn— got political commentator norman baker vbbn us— got political commentator norman baker with us. we're going to babk— baker with us. we're going to babk a

brendan clarke—smith banana republic . yes, but but this is republic.sibly criticise us. wet, th— cannot possibly criticise us. well, i'm sorry,— cannot possibly criticise us. well, i'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.— well, i'm sorry, but that's ridiculous. well frankly, it toee— ridiculous. well frankly, it does seem to— ridiculous. well frankly, it does seem to be a fundamental part— does seem to be a fundamental tort ot— does seem to be a fundamental part of democracy— does seem to be a fundamental part of democracy that elected representatives— part of democracy that elected representatives can speak vtthout— representatives can speak without let— representatives can speak without let or— representatives can speak without let or hindrance in fag,— without let or hindrance in fact, within— without let or hindrance in fact, within our— without let or hindrance in fact, within our democracy , fact, within our democracy, there— fact, within our democracy, there — fact, within our democracy, there are special rules in tortorheht— there are special rules i

nadine dorries, lord goldsmith, zac goldsmith, a friend of borisjohnson, the mp mark jenkinson, brendan clark jenkins. what we know is the committee through the book at borisjohnson but was also absolutely livid in the way it thought both mrjohnson and his allies usually sought to undermine its work. the argument the mp5 made quite frankly was that they mps made quite frankly was that they couldn't do their work properly in the future if these sorts of campaigns were allowed to go unchecked. there is a debate about this, there are some mps who say, it is not, if we think something has gone wrong and we think a process is flawed, we should be able to say so. but clearly there is a lot of anger within the committee about what was said and there are a number of mps who have been named in the annex to this report as having made comments that were problematic. 2.34: this report as having made comments that were problematic.— that were problematic. zac goldsmith is a minister. — that were problematic. zac goldsmith is a minister, isn't _ that were problematic. zac goldsmith is a minister, isn't he?

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yesterday, named by the privileges committee, along with nadine dorries and borisjohnson and brendan clarkeouse of commons and house of lords, more on that when we get it. i'm so sorry, kevin, interrupted you with that breaking news. what about the ethics of it, the morality of it, and the practicality of it? if you look at the numbers, rwanda says it can process 1000 people over the five—year period. that is 200 a year. it is a gesture. five-year period. that is 200 a year. it is a gesture.— year. it is a gesture. yes, they have said _ year. it is a gesture. yes, they have said that _ year. it is a gesture. yes, they have said that originally. - year. it is a gesture. yes, they have said that originally. they| year. it is a gesture. yes, they - have said that originally. they have now said they can process more. it is all really going to depend on how much money we give them, let's be honest, this is a money thing. we need to press on, because rwanda is the only deterrent that will stop people coming across the channel, because they won't want to pay the smugglers' fees just to be because

this is actually in bassetlaw, which is brendan clarke—smith . that's his area. clarke—smith.ut ioucimourn— no. look, i've got to talk about loudmouth lammy now, labour as weir.— loudmouth lammy now, labour as weii.-snaciow— loudmouth lammy now, labour as well. shadow foreign well. labour's shadow foreign secrerary.— well. labour's shadow foreign secrerary. wno— well. labour's shadow foreign secretary, who has told politic s nome— secretary, who has told politic s home about— secretary, who has told politic s home about the— secretary, who has told politic s home about the creep towards the s home about the creep towards rne ru— s home about the creep towards me in. we-ve— s home about the creep towards the eu. we've been— s home about the creep towards the eu. we've been clear that we are the eu. we've been clear that we nor— the eu. we've been clear that we are not entering— the eu. we've been clear that we are not entering back into the singie— are not entering back into the single market,— are not entering back into the single market, but clearly mere-s— single market, but

this is actually in bassetlaw, which is brendan clarke—smith . that's his area. clarke—smith.bout iowimowrn— no. look, i've got to talk about loudmouth lammy now, labour as weir.— loudmouth lammy now, labour as weii.-cnaaow— loudmouth lammy now, labour as well. shadow foreign well. labour's shadow foreign secretary,— well. labour's shadow foreign secretary, wno— well. labour's shadow foreign secretary, who has told politic s secretary, who has told politic c nome— secretary, who has told politic s home about— secretary, who has told politic s home about the— secretary, who has told politic s home about the creep towards the s home about the creep towards ine nu.— s home about the creep towards me in. we-ve— s home about the creep towards the eu. we've been— s home about the creep towards the eu. we've been clear that we are the eu. we've been clear that we nor— the eu. we've been clear that we are not entering— the eu. we've been clear that we are not entering back into the cingie— are not entering back into the single market,— are not entering back into the single market, but

—smith, who is one of brendan clarke—smith, who is one ot-nonotntng— of the last remaining borisro oo— whether he knowingly misled or not, are some people that not, there are some people that just— not, there are some people that rust-bons— not, there are some people that rust-bons-osl just perceive boris johnson as a nor.— just perceive boris johnson as a tron-otnors- just perceive boris johnson as a liar. _others who- just perceive boris johnson as a liar. others who just liar. there are others who just nono— liar. there are others who just have factored— liar. there are others who just have factored that into their support— have factored that into their supbonlntn — have factored that into their support him because they support of him because they find him support of him because they find ntn tttoobto— support of him because they find him likeable.-out- support of him because they find him likeable. out with him likeable. i was out with some girlfriends on friday night and some girlfriends on friday night onto—tnon- some girlfriends on friday night and—them said,- and like som

i am joined by the conservative brenda clark the conservative mp brenda clark smith. brendan, of— would actually do that. there are also a lot, of course, that teeettse—t- are also a lot, of course, that are—because theyi are also a lot, of course, that. are—because they may are abstaining because they may be are abstaining because they may te—ptntsnmentl are abstaining because they may be think punishment, are abstaining because they may be think was punishment, are abstaining because they may be think was tootnishment, are abstaining because they may be think was too harsh.ent, are abstaining because they may be think was too harsh. and but think it was too harsh. and tneees— there's lots of different eptntens— there's lots of different opinions have opinions on that. and i'd have teen—teeti been more than happy to trek tneettn— been more than happy to trek tmeten-wete- been more than happy to trek through vote against through there and vote against it through there and vote against tt-metn— through there and vote against it-mean, really,- through there and vote against it-

we've seen clarke—smith , seen some brendan clarke—smith, i believe. g few weeks saying in the past few weeks when of people have when lots of people have been saying, matter. saying, oh, it doesn't matter. look, a majority in look, you have a majority in parliament. how could this possibly vindictive possibly be a vindictive committee actually committee when actually all these say, no, these mps could just say, no, we're going to for it? we're not going to vote for it? it doesn't like that it doesn't really work like that because of moral weight because the sort of moral weight of this committee and the precedents on which it stands means that it's very, very difficult for mps to vote against that committee. you see, i do wonder with that— against that committee. you see, i do wonder with that then- d you see, i do wonder with that then has i mean, whether— i do wonder with that then has i mean, whether you _ i do wonder with that then has i mean, whether you think boris tnt— mean, whether you think boris tnt tut— mean, whether you think boris and ella