>> the true historians are other people like brendan lindsay of sacramento state, but hastings was a fellow who came out in the years after the gold rush in california -- actually, during the gold rush. he became the first chief justice of the state of california, the third attorney general. he apparently did not hold a job very long. he was chief justice of california for all of 16, 18 months, something like that. kristen: so he had these high up positions, but what was his role in terms of what he did in northern california, mendocino county, i think, and the impact on native americans? >> well, he financed killing expeditions. you can talk to the descendants of those people. they have come out and been very vocal. he had people that he hired to do this. i don't think he ever pulled a trigger himself. kristen: what was the motive? why the killing expeditions? >> that's a very good question that i rarely get asked, but, you see, he was very learned in the world. if you were to ask him, he would tell you, and he knew that there was even in 1850 if principle of international law recog

brendan and elizabeth. both of them please join me in welcoming dr. lindsay. and and welcome to the stage page to my conversant for the evening. i'm so thrilled when i ask for his bio. you literally gave me like one line