i am so excited that our partners for this event are represented by, brendan o'neill, its editor-in-chief. it describes itself as a political magazine devoted to humanism and libertarianism. categorize what it is fierce in his defense of individual liberty. brendan is a distinguished commentator who is the author of a duty to offend selected essays. he will be joined by stephanie barkley, counsel at the becket fund for religious liberty. she has defended a young muslim woman discriminated against in her employment and other practitioners of religious liberty. paula is one of the attorneys who represented the couple in this case. she has been working with this case for six years and was a finalist for the case of the year award on behalf of the plaintiffs. please join me in welcoming brendan o'neill, stephanie barclay, and paula greisen. [applause] wonderful. when we have formal debates, we vote before and after. because this is a case decided by the court, i would like to have a vote. i'm going to state the question and i want you to vote for the side you think should win constitutionally

please join me in welcoming brendan o'neill, stephanie barkley and paula grayson. [applause] >> wonderful. when we have formal debates of the constitution center, we vote before and after. because this is a case that will be decided by the court, i'd like to have a vote. i will state the constitutional question and i want you to vote not for the side you want to win politically but for the side you think should win constitutionally. in other words separate your political views from your constitutional views. you may think that's unfair for the gay couple in this case not to get the cake, but that the constitution protects the bakers right to refuse to sell it or could you think it's fine for him to refuse to sell the cake as a policy matter but the law requires it. the question i'm asking you to constitution protect the bakers right to refuse to sell a cake to a gay couple? in particular, to the religious freedom and free pressi provisions of the first amendment protects the bakers right. we will vote now and then you'll hear the debate. i want youo listen with an