. >> host: well, joining our conversation is brendan sasso, technology correspondent for national journal. >> thanks, peter. congressman, you were mentioning how the fcc's rules are based on section 706 of the telecommunications act, and that says the agency has the power to promote broadband. the law was passed in 1996 when you were in congress -- >> guest: subcommittee and full committee and on the conference committee. >> when congress wrote that provision, do did you see it as empowering the fcc to adopt internet regulations? [laughter] >> guest: there really wasn't an internet as we know it today when we passed the telco act in 1996. the big fight was between legacy telephone service and what we now call the wireless market. and we fought over that, and there was, there were fights in between the broadcasters and the cable companies and, but there wasn't any fight over internet because in spite of what vice president gore has said, there was not an internet as we know it today. so, no, there was no, there was not even any debate about the concept of net neutrality or any of that, and