>> brenÉ brown! >> brenÉ brown!?ing her dinner. >> emily spivey: how can i be generous in my assumptions of others when i hate most people? >> maya rudolph: mmm, good one. >> brown: here's the thing. we can't be generous toward other people without boundaries. >> rudolph: yes, brenÉ, yes. >> pell: boom. boom on the boundaries. >> brown: so, boundaries. >> boundaries. yes, oh my god, message received. >> whitaker: it's easy to miss, but the two women sitting to brown's right in that scene are her real-life friends laura mayes and karen walrond. do people actually come up to her, like she's their best friend? >> yeah. yeah. ( laughs ) >> whitaker: she gets that a lot? >> walrond: she gets a lot of-- "i was afraid to come up to speak to you, but brenÉ brown would tell me to be-- ( laughs ) courageous, so i'm-- this is me being courageous to come up and speak to you." >> mayes: yeah. >> walrond: yeah. >> whitaker: and-- does she go, "boundaries?" >> mayes: yes. ( laughs ) >> brown: you know, i've been thinking a lot abou

brene brown joins us from houston. good morning. welcome. >> good morning. of your first episode is about navigating these first times. and boy are we all dealing with a lot of the them. first time i'm broadcasting from home. but you believe these are kind of critical learning moments for all of us. why is -- what's your advice for dealing with it? >> i personally am not comfortable like everyone else with first times, but i think they're incredibly important because we get to applies especially as adults where we stop doing anything that we're not already good at. and that discomfort and vulnerability and awkwardness of being new is really the juice. it's the lifeblood for us. and the more new things we lean into, the more new things we're willing to try, and that's -- that's growth for us. and when we shut that down, we stop living. we stop growing. and so unfortunately, we were all collectively hurled into this first time. but there are things we can do to make first times which are often pretty terrible better. >> i feel emotionally drained. i feel spiri

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. >> real quickly, i was listeninw to brene brown, unlocking us, she talked about how most tragedies square. >> oh, goodness. there's a new normal now there's a way for us to stay connected but still give each other space, but it's about that keeping a connection no matter how difficult the times may be i think reaching out to people that you forget that you haven't reached out to and just saying, hey, i'm here and i'm thinking of you i've done that with a few people, you know what, i've been thinking about you i just realized unless i tell you, you won't know it. >> we've been thinking about you a lot and what you're cooking. a tuna casserole what are you pushing in there. -- putting in there. i saw a bunch of cream going into that pot. >> that was milk i started by sauteing onions mushrooms and salt and added milk and flour because i want to make a roux. bring it to a light simmer now adding chicken broth this is a terrific recipe you can use anything in your pantry. you can make it with chicken, tuna, any vegies in the freezer. you're starting with roux, basically a cream of mushr