here nomination in order to get them and they didn't get them and they still approved brennan i'm sure you read the report about the cia bribing karzai his office with cashing backpacks plastic bags and whatnot unnamed u.s. officials told the new york times that much of the more money goes to paying off world lords and politicians many of whom have ties to the drug trade and in some cases the taliban the result of this appears to be that the agency empowers the same networks that american diplomats and law enforcement agents say they're trying to dismantle they're trying to fight how do you explain what seems like conflicting priorities of different parts of the u.s. government you know this one is hard to explain exactly what the cia money goes for how it's distributed what the purposes other than to sort of gain influence in cars in the circle i mean i helped on that story and it was very difficult to. we still don't know and karzai has come out this weekend and said come through they confirmed it right so how much of this acts at cross purposes with. you know the work of as you said

john brennan was doing this because of the a.p.'s reporting, pounding on the white house, and they were terrified that this agent in place would be compromised, may be killed. that was what was going on. this began really as an attempt on the white house. chris: let me get this straight so people understand this. the attorney general had no real idea where the leak went to. they had to go that broad. >> in the beginning to this day, i don't think the prosecutor know who's leaked the information. in the beginning this was a search for a political leaker who had let the information out and they thought it was brennan. >> they kept it secret. this is another big issue for your former employer here, which is that there was this huge subpoena, very broad and they only discovered it after the fact. they revealed it after the fact. chris: so many problems, but because of the i.r.s. issues, references to wear gate have surfaced several places this week. here is one. >> a lot of american adults not so fondly remember the government was found

at this point. >> rose: margaret brennan, as usual, enormously helpful. thank you so much. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: margaret brennan, chief state department correspondent for cbs news, we'll be right back. stay with us. >> rose: vali nasr is here, he's dean of john hopkins school of advanced international study. from 2009 to 2011-- two years-- he served as senior advisor to the late richard holbrooke, president obama's envoy for pakistan and afghanistan. nasr describes his time in the administration as a deeply disillusioning experience. his new book is called "the dispensable nation: am$j$can foreign policy in retreat" zbigniew brzezinski writes about this book "an impressive and sweep regular view of the escalating geopolitical challenge that the united states needs to address more intelligently." m pleased to have vali nasr back at this table. welcome. good to see you. >> good to be here. >> rose: you and i have had many conversations at this table so now that you have written this book, you say the following as we continue quoting. >> my time i

, the e-mails seemed to satisfy enough senate republicans that john brennan got confirmed. what about the e-mails now raises questions in your mind if they didn't raise enough questions to stop john brennan's confirmation? >> i think mr. brennan's confirmation had to be taken in the context of his overall qualifications and i think on balance, a majority of senators decided that it would be better to confirm him. this is another example of intimidation and overreach, chuck. with the state department telling state department whistleblowers, be careful what you say. don't go forward with all this information. i think it's shocking and an outranou outrage and so as more investigations, as more committees exercise their governing function of conducting oversight to me, it's a scandal that's going to reach its peak. >> i'm curious on the benghazi thing. why hasn't there been more focus on the -- the more we know, cia may have had more oversight over this outpost than any other agency. should there be more, should the intelligence committee, should there be more of an investigati

during the confirmation for john brennan as director of the c.i.a. there was a request for more information, including e-mails around the deliberating process points. in these talks this administration took the extraordinary measure in providing those emails to members of the relevant committees, as well as the leadership members and staff in congress. that information was available, again, in late february to members of congress and through march. once that information was reviewed in the case of the senate, senate republicans went on record saying i know what i need to know then allowed the process for the confirmation of john brennan to go forward and he was confirmed in early march. >> why were those e-mails provided in a -- [unintelligible] >> it is a standard procedure for both parties going back decades that internal deliberations are generally protected information that is not something that is regularly shared with congress. that is to allow for a process in the executive branch. in this case, to answer these concerns that members of congres

on another occasion, john brennan, when he was president obama's chief counterterrorism adviser, spoke about the need of rolls around our use of drones, an issue that is not yet fully resolved. and general keith alexander, the head of cyber command at the national security agency, came here to discuss how the public can get into the debate about cyber. another tough issue. as the towers were falling and the pentagon fire was burning on 9/11, i was a senior member of the house intelligence committee and headed to the capitol dome. that is where the intelligence committee rooms were then located. it was the intended target of the for their plan that went down in pennsylvania, is believed.

director, john brennan. some of this information has only come out because of congressional pressure. but that said, within the organization, there's this desire to remain apolitical and to move on. >> rose: is there some sense here that their national security issues they that they can't talk about but they clearly believe are important to protect? >> charlie, that's been one of the issues there day one here. there was a presence in benghazi by the state department, a special mission there. but this annex that gets referred to so often that was the site of the second attack on the night of september 11 is known to be a c.i.a. outpost and there are some who will say to you privately "that's really why we were there and will there's a lot we can't go public about." so these claims by the house republicans and others who say the white house isn't revealing everyone who is on the ground, the more than 30 people who were airlifted out of benghazi the next day, the defense on the part of the administration is to

i don't know if it's john brennan or who. never mind the legal framework. i worry very much that at this technology spreads, through our history we have been a refuge. we have had people rebelling against their governments and we make a home for them here, because we often support what they are doing because we are in favor of democracy. we have done that since our earliest days. does that mean some other country has a right to target them on american soil? troubling questions unless we get the beagle framework you are asking for. framework. >> [inaudible] october foristan in the foundation of [indiscernible] right. the signature strikes require significant portions of the strikes. i don't understand the legal framework. for framework people keep using the word targeted killings. it's clearly not. it patterns of activity where they don't even know who the individuals are. so how is that justified? correct anyone wish to respond? anyone wish to respond? >> that's a concern for those of us who think some drone strikes, is how the signature strikes obamao fit

au introduced mike brennan as their new head coach.nnan was most recently an assistant coach at georgetown. so the d.c. area has been home for a while. >> knowing the university, having taken tours, having taken recruits on tours and everything, i mean, i'm excited about all the changes i see. tlair lot of additions to campus that are attractive to me and will attract more students. and seeing all the familiar faces. it's a sense of comfort and it's nice knowing most of the department. it makes this transition a lot easier. >>> new au head coach mike brennan. these are the nba playoffs. george karl and the nuggets trying to avoid elimination. denver up by 11. corey brewer to andrei igdolla for the flush. iguodala with a game high 25 points. nuggets up by 20 at halftime. third quarter, denver up 14. this time it's iguodala dishing to costa kufis. you think he's happy? denver wins, 107-100. they still trail in the series, three games to two. you never are safe. >> because of him. >> with >>> you go through any of those drive-through zoos

brennan, intends to move the drone program out of the c.i.a. into the pentagon? is that a cause for separation on your part? >> when is it gonna happen? is it going to include pakistan? what is the -- what are the specifics behind those intentions? we've heard good intentions now for five years including the intention to close guantanamo but we need to see it done. in the meantime, brennan is the same person that told us in 2011 there has been no civilians killed by droabs and then changed it to maybe a handful. from our estimates, there are thousands of people who have been killed by drones. there was no recognition of that in the president's speech. no sense of we are going to give you these figures make them public. we're going to make the legal memos public. we're going to apologize and compensate to the innocent people who have been killed by our drones. certainly none of that was said. >> john: as you know, we've talked about drones extensively on this program and been critical of the administration. for those who didn't get to hear your speech during the p

it was given by the obama administration this broad interpretation it was john brennan who said that. gives the obama administration authority to launch drone strikes all over the world including countries who are not at war with and he's taking that interpretation and broadened it of course we know that it has exacerbated a lot about bush administration policies under the math you can argue that the n.d.a. provision that he signed into law in two thousand and twelve did expand the indefinite detention clause and all seriousness though let's hear what he had to say precisely about this very subject. we must define our effort not as a boundless global war on terror fight rather as a series of persistent targeted efforts to dismantle specific networks of violent extremists that threaten america so sam maybe you could break this down because to me everything he's done has been boundless so he's kind of saying you know the war on terror can't be boundless i mean right well it's going to be interesting to see how is department of defense reacts you know to a lot of this because just last w

you know not at all one of the thing that's not getting enough reported about this is that john brennan was responsible for the most damaging part of this leak by his own sworn testimony and yet he claims he's not he's neither a target nor a suspect and after he testified to the f.b.i. he was given a big promotion so if this leak is so damaging as eric holder suggested today you said it was one of the three two or three worst in his entire thirty some year career why did john brennan get a promotion after being a key participant in this leak that's a very good question that i'm sure a lot of people are searching for the answers to mel before the attorney general's office went into went after the a.p. phone records and conducted more than five hundred fifty interviews and reviewed tens of thousands of documents why was this article in may of two thousand and twelve deserving of so much time and so much manpower in comparison to some of the other leaks that have actually come out leaks like the stuxnet virus that was attacking iran looks like the targeted killing program leaks like those

saying that john brennan, now c.i.a. director will have edits. he opted to delete assessment that has attackers came from many sectors of libyan society. >> only thing that white house spokesman has has credibility. there is nobody believes that these were stylistic changes. >> finally the two chairs of the state department's post benghazi review board have written to the g.o.p. chairman of the house oversight committee proposing two dates in may or june they would be available to testify in defense of their final report. james rosen, fox news. >> jon: how did the media handle these emails? we'll get into that next, with the panel on news watch. the boys used double miles from their capital one venture card to fly home for the big family reunion. you must be garth's father? hello. mother. mother! traveling is easy with the venture card because you can fly airline anytime. two words. double miles! this guy can act. wanna play dodge rock? oh, you guys! and with double miles you can actuay use, you never miss the fun. beard growing conte and go! ♪ w

they'll deliver that report to president obama in 30 days. >> axelrod: margaret brennan in washington, thank you. later, our triple crown dreams alive or dashed at the preakness? three years in an eight by 10 shell. one former inmate's case for ending solitary cob finement. one former inmate's case for ending solitary cob finement. and remembering golfing legend ken venturi. but with copd making it hard to breathe, so my doctor prescribed symbicort. it helps significantly improve my lung function starting within five minutes. symbicort doesn't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. with symbicort, today i'm breathing better. and that means...fish on! symbicort is for copd including chronic bronchitis and emphysema. it should not be taken more than twice a day. symbicort may increase your risk of lung infections, osteoporosis, and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. with copd, i thought i'd miss our family tradition. now symbicort significantly improves my lung function, starting within 5 minutes. and that ma

mike brennan is the new basketball coach. it is nice to return to a place that is so familiar. >> going on tours. seeing the familiar faces. it is nice knowing most of the department. it makes this transition easier. brennan is the school's 17th basketball coach. >> this is danica patrick at last night's hockey game. she made this shot. based on her reaction. she seems like she has done it a dozen times. her team won in over time. 2-1. >> coming up, new study says 20 kids visit the er every day because of an amusement park ride related injury. >> 4400 kids a year get hurt on a ride. researchers say it is not just roller coasters. mall and arcade rides too. they include bruises. sprains and concussions. and follow the height recommendations too. >> giving up roller coasters. don't feed the animals. that is the lesson learned for this family. you can see the camel climb into the car before backing off. he wants to join the family. the camel started running with the car. begging for treats. the mom says her little girl loves cam

"washington post" on friday made the point that the ap had the story on may 7 and of course, john brennan was out talking about it on may 8. so it would appear that they were investigating the ap for doing what they themselves were doing, which is leak. so they wanted the exclusive to themselves, and they were willing to violate the law or bend the rules at least to investigative reporters. >> there is a process here, involves a notice period to the media in question. i've talked to multiple people at the ap and their lawyer. they were not notified about this as the law requires. had they been and had the obama administration been deft, they might have worked this out. they violated the provision requiring the notice. >> it's also pretty clear that the white house, well -- the ap was going to blow the cover on this story that the white house was getting ready to announce and that may be the source of all this. >> that's exactly right. to follow up on what jim was saying, there was an agreement between the white house and ap to hold this story action the story being the foiling of an al-qa

here nomination in order to get them and they didn't get them and they still approved brennan i'm sure you read the report about the cia bribing karzai his office was cashing backpacks plastic bags and what not unnamed u.s. officials told the new york times that much of the more money goes to paying off world lords and politicians many of whom have ties to the drug trade and in some cases the taliban the result of this appears to be that the agency empowers the same networks that american diplomats and law enforcement agents say they're trying to dismantle they're trying to fight how do you explain what seems like conflicting priorities of different parts of the u.s. government you know this one is hard to explain exactly what the cia money goes for how it's distributed what the purposes other than to sort of gain influence in cars in the circle i mean i helped on that story and it was very difficult to. i mean we still don't know and karzai has come out this weekend and said come through they confirmed it right so how much of this x. it cross purposes with. you know what the work of a

not seem to get it where this drone program is concerned, and i am not accusing them alone, john brennannd the brother. but one is the president, and the other is an attorney general. they come from experience that at its best has taught this nation how to go the other way, how to find another option, how to value life. i do not have a language for it yet because it just untethers me. talking to the rev. jesse jackson when he secured the nomination in 2008, and he gave a speech where he simultaneously said he was good to escalate the war in afghanistan, and he was also " quoting dr. king. is there not a contradiction in that? to say we should not talk about dr. martin luther king in the same speech as war, but do you not see the irony of that? tavis: is not just by renÉe, jeremy. it is hypocrisy. -- it is not just irony. and they should all listen to the speech of dr. martin luther king. it took him years to come to that position, and i think that one of the things that is happening in our society is that there is so much racism and bigotry towards the president coming from the right. i

in her first television interview, south korea's iron lady, park guen-hye, tells margaret brennan she won't hesitate to strike back against the north. captioning sponsored by cbs ca this is the "cbs evening news" with scott pelley. >> pelley: good evening. one of the suspects arrested in an alleged coverup of the boston bombing is out of jail tonight. 19-year-old robel phillipos is charged with lying to federal investigators. he was released on $100,000 bond. he will be confined to his mother's home and he will have to wear an ankle bracelet. two other men-- students from kazakhstan-- remain in custody charged with concealing and destroying evidence. all three men were classmates of aeohkhar tsarnaev who is charged with the bombing itself. tsarnaev is being treated in a prison hospital. relatives still can't find a cemetery who is willing to bury is brother tamerlan who was killed in a shootout with holice. inmerlan's wife has become the bocus of the bombing investigation and don dahler is following that for us in boston. katherine russell, tamerlan tsarnaev's widow, has tried to rema

during the confirm nation process for john ben unanimous as direct -- brennan as director for the cias request for more information, including e-mails, around the deliberating process involved in producing these talking points, and this administration took the rare extraordinary member of providing those e-mails to the members of the appropriate committee as well as leadership members and staff in congress, and that information was available, again in late february, to members of congress, and through march, and once that information was reviewed, in the case of the senate, senate republicans, a number of woman went on record who say now i feel like i know what i need to know. then allowed the process for the confirmation of john brennan to go forward and he was confirmed in march. >> e-mails provided in a -- >> i think the standard procedure for administrations of both parties going back decades that internal deliberations are generally protected information that is not something that is regularly shared with congress, and that's because to allow for a deliberative process in the exe

earlier today i was joined by my report says she's the deputy director of democracy program at the brennan center for justice and she began by talking about the importance of this proposed policy change. it's important because we live in a participatory democracy and if we want a robust democracy we need to have all of our citizens be able to have a say in the laws that govern us and currently we have four million americans who are living and working in our communities who cannot vote because of a criminal conviction in their past virginia was one of a number of states that imposed restrictions on people who had gotten out of prison and were living and working in the community making it impossible for them to get the rights to vote back unless the governor specifically decided to individually provide clemency or pardon for that particular person and that is disruptive to the re entry process if we want people to be productive engage citizens we should be encouraging them to be engaging in pro-social behavior like voting and it is just up to public safety because it doesn't fully give peopl

margaret brennan is our cbs news state department correspondent. she joins us from washington tonight. so, margaret, what does this do to u.s. plans for that peace conference they've been talking about? >> well, that rejection by the opposition puts those peace talks in jeopardy. and it's a setback for the obama administration which still hopes that it can broker a political solution to end the fighting and to get assad to leave power. on top of that the administration's point man on syria, ambassador robert ford, who's been personally trying to get the opposition to the peace talks is now stepping down in just a matter of months and that could hurt the administration's efforts. >> dubois: against this backdrop does the united states change course or stay the course here? >> well, there are many voices inside the administration who will say in private that they want to do more, whether it's arming the rebels or establishing a no-fly zone. but that ultimately is president obama's decision and he has made clear that he does not want to take any actio

once that process was completed the confirmation of john brennan went forward.umber of republicans came forward and said they felt like they have the information they needed about that aspect of the benghazi incident. and it isson now for what i think is again reflective of ongoing attempts to politicize a tragedy that took four american lives. we're now seeing it resurface together with sort of political assertions by republicans that ignore the basic facts here. there was an attack on our facility in benghazi. the intelligence community provided the information that it felt comfortable providing for public dissemination to members of government, congress, and the administration. as we learned more about what that, we provided it. that's why everybody has received that information that it has throughout this process. from the, one of the things that i think is interesting, from the very beginning there was included in the points the statement about demonstrations taking place outside of the building and the facility in benghazi. that is what the assessment, the

and john brennan is now in place at the cia, where he will be an excellent servant to the public, as he has been for so long. now, what happened a few months later, there was a decision by republicans, i assume, one has to assume, in congress to leak selectively these e-mails that had been provided to them. and we saw what happened. so in reaction to that, we took the step of simply releasing them. there was a little bit of a process that had to be gone through to make sure that proper declassification took place. but we released them, because we knew, as we have said all along, that the truth was on our side here. that the fundamental issue going back to the sunday shows after the attacks in benghazi, that republicans made a big deal about, was that ambassador rice went out and said it was our best estimate, based on intelligence reports, there had been a spontaneous protest that evolved into these violent attacks on our facility. that piece of information turned out to be wrong, and republicans excoriated her and the administration for that. what we have said all along and what the

there unfortunately we're out of time on a prize deputy director at the democracy program at the brennan center for justice thank you thank you that does it for now i'm maggie lopez see you right back here at eight pm eastern. when you take three. four three. three. three. three. three blog video for your media. free.

margaret brennan is with us this morning.. >> good morning to you, charlie, and to norah. the president told us she wanted to do this interview to introduce herself to america. what u.s. officials want to know is just how hard her policy will be toward north korea. she told us she will make them pay if they attack. her own personal story is fascinating and weaves you through this conflict with north korea. >> park geun-hye is known as the iron lady of asia. a reputation she earned during her rise to power in a male dominated country. her father was killed by one of his own intelligence agents after running the country for nearly 20 years. her mother died at the hands of a north korean spy. despite that park met face to face in 2002 with the man who likely ordered that attack north korea's kim jong il. >> that familiary caused a lot of pain for your country and for you. what was that like being face to face with him? >> translator: of course if i take personal considerations into account i should not have gone to north korea b

ever publicly presented against him even if even if anwar lucky is guilty of every leak that john brennan and harold koh and all these people cooked up even if he's guilty of every single thing. prosecuted charge him with a cry. and demand is extradition we don't value judge who we are as a society and how we treat the popular the rich the powerful how do you treat the least of your people the poor and the most reprehensible of your citizens so for me it's not about you know a lockie is some kind of a noble character he said things i found downright offensive and reprehensible he probably could have been indicted for something why not indict him so the question is when you have a president who won the nobel peace prize is a constitutional law expert by trade and is very popular among the liberal base saying we have the right to kill american citizens without due process or without even charging them with a crime we've crossed a line that you can't just walk back from after you've crossed it and the killing of a sixteen year old son this was a kid who i know that family very well who had a

the world who were the targets of those rates who are who was being killed almost everything john brennan said in the aftermath of the killing of osama bin laden turned out to be false as you point out he didn't use his wife as a human shield he wasn't reaching for a gun this was the killing of an unarmed man in the middle of the night who had just been sleeping in his bed and you know the fact that he saw some of it when it comes to the law or basic principles shouldn't actually matter i mean this this was a guy who was notorious and was wanted. to shoot him in that manner when he's on armed that should raise questions it's unpopular say that but again that's how we define who we are how do we treat those people the final thing i'll say and it is that i tell the story my book when the seals were preparing for that operation a lawyer from the white house went out to watch them on a training exercise and one of the guys asked him you know is are we supposed to just take him out and he was oh no no this isn't an assassination operation if he's lying naked on the floor on armed don't shoot h

. >> reporter: they said john brennan quote will have edits, brennan opted to dele cia's assessment that attackers hailed, quote, from across many sectors of libyan ociety. on thing that white hse spokesperson has is credibility ere is nobody at this point that believes that white house spokesperson, jay carney these were merely schedulistic changes. >> it is looking like there month or next month with sworn congressional testimony by two co-chairs of state department post benghazi review bored, tom pickerring, and admiral mike muellen. lou: thank you very much. james rosen reporting from washington. >> our first gift, says that release of these e-mails is long overdue. but the obama administration must still release all of the benghazi documents. joining us, house judiciary committee chairman, congressman bob. >> good to be with you lou. lou: whether they of disseptioned or gaps, two days of e-mails are missing, what is your construct of what the white house is now doing regarding irs? regarding the justice department and the associated press. and of course, benghazi? >> i think that fi

margaret brennan is on capitol hill with more.ot done investigating why the irs targeted conservative groups. and there will be two more committee hearings on capitol hill next week. fresh questions were raised yesterday when the irs's watchdog testified that he told the treasury in june 2012 about this investigation. that indicates that some obama administration officials knew of the probe during the presidential campaign. treasury secretary jack liu said he first heard of it in mid-march of this year but did not know the details until last week. yesterday he ordered the irs to report to president obama within 30 days on whether this targeting is a systemic problem and told them to hold staff accountable. now, the ousted irs commissioner steven miller testified yesterday, as you said. he did apologize, but he also says that his employees who targeted conservative groups did not do so for partisan political reasons. questions still remain about who knew what when and why this was done. >> margaret brennan on capitol hill this morn