>> director brennen, this conspiracy was being pushed, for a long time, not only by the president buts allies in congress. fox news. i'm wondering has the well been poisoned so deeply that it won't change the minds of those convinced something occurred? >> well, unfortunately, donald trump and other members of the republican party continue to propagate these conspiracy theories. and try to besmirch the reputations of former officials. and unfortunately, i think the -- those who want to believe them will believe them and will not understand, exactly, that this is all being done for political purposes. and as -- as jim said, it, again, is a normal practice that, unfortunately, has been mischaracterized by those who want to paint the obama administration as having engaged in something that was inappropriate. but the investigation of russian interference and the activities that the intelligence law enforcement engaged in, during that period of time, were obligations, on the part of those agencies, to ensure that the president and others understood the extent and the scope of what the russ