. >> gawande: brenner's immediate response was to get involved in police reform. he thought if he could get a hold of crime statistics he could map hotspots, the places where good policing would make a difference. but the department wasn't interested in helping a local doctor. so he went to another place, one he knew well-- the hospital. there, buried in billing records from the er, where violent assaults get treated, he found crime patterns. as he crunched the hospital data, brenner discovered something totally unexpected-- other kinds of hotspots. >> it became clear that there were hotspots of everything. there were hotspots by disease, hotspots by patient. there were certain patients who had been, over and over and over, going to the emergency room and hospital too much. there were hotspots by zip code and by neighborhood. so you sit and begin to look through the data, and i'm looking at my patients who are in the data, and realizing i had no idea how much health care cost. i had no idea how expensive it was. and it was just shocking. >> gawande: brenner says t

i was very lucky in that, the brenners are a family of letter writers. everyone had a typewriter in the era before computers and bang away at typewriters in the middle of the night as children and my father and mother, long, long letters. anita brenner turned out to be the same kind of obsessive letter-writer pack right. all of her letters were in the university of texas, the great archives of the world. i was able to go on a traumatic day and see she had neatly kept hundreds of letters that my father and family wrote to each other in the 20s. i saw patterns, the anger that had gone on 60 years before i was on the planet that became stamped on us. it became our dna. >> anything that helped you get insight as to why so much of your brother's anger and passion into what you regarded as coo coo politics? >> that is an interesting question. it is hard. what i have learned is, i have written biographies, bingham family of louisville. we take a letter of a piece of evidence, there is a ah-huh, this anger daughter wrote a letter to her father. my grandfather wo

the next reader is summer brenner. . >> i'm going it read today an excerpt from anana, queen of heaven and earth. i wanted to say a few words about anana. this is the oldest literary work that we have. these are the cuniform tablets that were excavated in the late 1880's and early 1890's by the university of pennsylvania. tens of thousands of fragments of cuniform fragments. the story of anana starts in her adolescence. it travels through her journey as a queen and a goddess, and much of her story is devoted to the love, a very passionate love, for dimusi, who is a shepherd who she takes as her husband, lover and king. and this is called the return. a lament was raised in the city. my lady weeps bitterly for her young husband. anana weeps bitterly for her young husband. woe for her husband, woe for her young love, woe for her house, woe for her city. dimusi was taken captive in aruk. he will no longer bathe in aradu. he will no longer treat the mother of anana of his mother. he will no longer perform his sweet task among the maidens of the city. he will no longer raise his sword higher

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brenner on health or solomon kahn on education.rested in your thoughts on that as a repair mechanism because it is the conversation i've been having with these other characters. >> it is interesting here because i'm sure we're on different parts of the political spectrum. >> sure. >> i want us to go back to communities, running their lives in ways they have -- >> community restoration. >> yeah. there is a reason to be optimistic about this. when i talk about these issues, i get a lot of instinctive understanding. when i talk to people who are very affluent and powerful, a lot of them are saying, you know what? i see that in my life and i especially see it in my kids' lives. i see the extent to which they're drawing up with what a sense of what this country is about so i don't think we need to demonize that group. i think within that group there are a lot of people who sense the nature of the problem. >> i agree. >> and once the problem is in a sense agreed upon across a wide range of political views then we can start talking about

jeffrey brenner who we talked about at length who is hot spotting effectively finding in his case the 1% in camden, new jersey that are responsible for 30% of the health care costs, you know, the 5% of the american population, 50% of the health care costs and making those people healthy as a goal which is sort of not where we, how we function right now. >> yeah. well, there is a huge demand for any sort of industry service or technology that treats, reduces medical error, reduces hot spots, gives better quality of care. as opposed to the old model which is trying to sell a drug or trying to sell a medical device or trying to sell something like that there is this new service industry or technology industry of trying to find new ways to deliver health care better, more efficiently and reduce hospital errors. i am working with john hopkins with peter on his checklist system and there is a tremendous need for that, yes. >> and how valuable do you see that? and also from talking to dr. brenner, that sort of thing that you're talking about is very threatening to a lot of incumbent business

brenner in new jersey reforming the way they do health care.ough, a task you're devoting yourself to in this election season to get to what you see as the root, which is total lack of fear on the part of incumbent politicians that they will lose their job if they continue to betray the american people. fair? >> that's very fair. incumbents are stuck there. the system is stacked against the challenger. only four members of the house of representatives lost their seat in the primaries in 2010. that's extraordinary. >> that was supposed to be the wave election. >> basically, there's a campaign out there, it's something i'm supporting called campaign for primary responsibility. it's to shake up the power structure. it's to remove people who no longer represent their constituents but are still in office today. >> why, and i totally agree with this, but why is it so important? it seems like it depowers. you can fight money in politics, but it seems the power in politics would diminish if the incumbent politicians were fearful they would lose their jo

brenner and you have hot spotted pl political spending and identified the data. 196 people spending 86%the money. >> giving the money to super pacs. yeah. >> so let's talk about redistricting. this hot spotting thing makes me nuts. we're going to meet with those people. tell us about how the redistricting is getting worse not better and why that further disconnects the voters. >> redistricting happens every ten years. we know that based on the census. both parties gerrymander based on who is in control. one of the interesting trends in this election cycle in particular is republicans control virtually the entire south. which is different than in the past. now they are in control. what they are doing is drawing the districts in such a way to put as many democrats into as few districts as possible. . the rest of the districts are controlled by white republicans. we have an issue of redistricting where we're creating a black democratic party and a white republican party in the south for the next decade. >> the interesting thing, krystal, people are catching on to this. this is the chicaner

earning the money to take her to see the king and i with yul brenner.t do that. she was quiet, she was -- she raised her children during the depression. so this was her way of showing love. that's the way she demonstrated. >> this is what i heard about you. you're a foodie but you don't cook. you so much don't cook that you don't have salt in your house. i didn't believe that. >> it's true. it sounds like a weird religious ritual that i have no salt in the house. a friend of mine came over and said can i get some salt? i said look in the cub board over the oven that i never used. that's sugar. not salt. two different things. it's terrible. >> what interests me is you have photos of you in the kitchen. it's something i come back to. it's the notion of interchange between grandchildren and grandparents and bringing a camera to photograph their curiosity with their grandparents so you can pass it on down the line. >> absolutely. you can't learn this from a book. >> some of these recipes are written down. i'm the type of person that i'll say, is it a half t

jeffrey brenner figured out only 1% of the people there accounted for 30% of the health care costs.ecome healthier. also health care collapsed in the community because the people who are the most sick are being addressed. therefore people who do it with crime, education. san francisco figured out people -- you and i learn at different rates of speed. why should my pressure or your pressure on me affect what we are learning when we can work with youtube lectures and go to a classroom with less pressure. there is a lot of innovative thought in america outside washington. >> your point is washington will be the last to react. >> i believe that. >> meanwhile you are embarking on a 30 million jobs tour. you are taking your show to three college campuses this week -- kentucky, ohio state and university of chicago. >> the wildcats, buckeyes and the phoenix. >> why 30 million? >> the number is derived from the u-6 number. the underemployed, those getting one or two hours a week along with the unemployed. if you look at the people in america that don't have work by that measure it's 30 milli