kind of like a salami strategy finally, the stock goes up after a presentation by brent saunders at jpgan health. why? because it's down so long it looks up it's called trough and the stock is dropping. >> all right, jim. what's on "mad" tonight? >> well, i mean, we're down here at the conference. we have a lot of talk, a lot of opportunity to talk to companies that haven't spent a lot of time on tv. canada goose, we're going to sit down with them warm here for canada goose, but that's all right kohl's saying things are different, and jane elfers may be my mvp for retail in this year >> that's high praise, especially with what's happened in the last couple months. jim, great shot as david said. looks like a commercial behind him. >> it really does. flowers. foliage. >> carnival cruise or somebody, i don't know >> jim, we'll see you on "mad," 6:00 p.m. eastern time >> when we come back, exclusive with alex goreski, live from the conference with the dow at 58. that you're idling in your car, you're sending about half a gallon of gasoline up in the air. that amounts to about 10 pounds of