and the fourth one is a visit with brent scowcroft. the fifth one is not getting into the white house at all and a... >> guest: fifth one's two visits with scowcroft. c-span: yeah. and then the sixth one, which is probably gonna sound unfair, was a visit with vice president quayle. >> guest: well, that--that's sort of outside that. that--that--that's a separate kind of thing, but, yes, when--when he was not going to be in the white house itself. c-span: now how did you two work out who got to do what on this >> guest: well, we'd--i would get recommendations from the national security adviser, who, in turn, would've talked to jim baker or, if it was somebody active in the defense system of another country, to cheney. intelligence people might or might not be a part of such a decision. and we just had a protocolary sense, also, as to how--how to treat a visitor without -- without appearing to side with or undermine--side with the visitor against the--the seated prime minister or seated president of a--of the visit--of the visitor's count