a very long history of, over 50 years, and we're inaugurating a n -- brent scowcroft international security center later in the year and it's one of the do tanks as opposed to think tanks and interesting, smart people that work hard on many different national security problems. >> host: the former undersecretary of state for arms control, from 2009 to 2012. do you have a current rome at state? >> guest: a parttime special envoy right now. i'm basically retire. >> host: duncan, oklahoma, thanks for holing, republican line. >> caller: i was just curious, did not the military actually perpetrating the crimes against their own people over there can they not be held accountable once assad is being removed and if so, if we can communicate that to them, wouldn't that slow them down on killing their own sometime'll take my answer off the air. thank you. >> guest: certainly the international criminal court in "the hague" is a place for them, and as you remember, the former yugoslavia and kosovo war and other different kinds of problems, people were arrested and taken there, and held for trial. we se