cartier—bresson, the magazine were closing. a lifetime. television was there. right.o i said, yeah, we have to do something else with photography. and in the meantime, they started to be interesting. the glossy paper like vogue, i think, and fashion magazine and design magazine. and of course, this period is the 1960s. the late 1960s. they called them the swinging �*60s. when music, art, culture... i was there. ..was changing so rapidly. and you were part of that. now, there was a moment of euphoria about... new possibilities. yeah. new life, new vision. and of course, we had the sense of future. now there isn't any sense of future. and when you think of future, we get afraid. but it strikes me there was something a little different about you. because although you were mixing with celebrities, with mickjagger and all the most famous musicians, all of the fashion models in paris and milano and london, seduced just by celebrity and fame. you wanted something else. yeah, you know, itell you, i was telling you that for me, photography is a media. it's not that i am a phot

the first bresson, lebanon, in 40 years. there has never been a more precise only. see, i want to get in trouble for that. it's just c-span. there has never been a more precisely targeted military and intelligence operation and i got to say, if you wrote that as as the of a mission impossible movie they'd reject it and say this is you're not going to break in and replace the batteries years in the manufacturing plate and get the terrorist to give it all to the terrorists. so they all blow up on command when ordered by their superiors. and then by the way, right after the right after the it was the walkie talkies. you've got to think about every hezbollah terrorist who's terrified every time a phone rings, they're like, oh, --, that's a good thing. and understand how interconnected america and israel are, how it is in our interest for israel to prevail that's something victoria exquisitely well this book explains but what with israel and hamas and hezbollah and iran is not some problem halfway around the world but it is a problem that acute impacts u.s. national secu