i'm joined now by bret schafer, a disinformation expert and senior fellow at the alliance for securingemocracy. brett, good afternoon. do you. thank so much for being here with us. >> grab me, jessica this is an elaborate ruse here by russia, but the justice department says these podcasters may not have even known about who was paying for them. >> i'm just curious how are they were they so susceptible to this alleged scheme? >> you know, actually by the fact that they were unaware of what was happening here. i mean, if you read the indictment, the russians went to some level to conceal their hand here. so they actually had set up a fictitious persona as somebody who is actually a french business person. i mean, they weren't particularly sophisticated with their tradecraft. apparently this guy joined a call that wrong time because he confuse time zones and moscow and paris. but there clearly was some effort to mislead these contributors about who the funders were of this platform. and frankly, from russia's perspective, it's better at the contributors don't know that there's a russian h

and they were trying to manipulate that platform analysts, bret schafer says, one of his biggest worry is going forward is that whatever election meddling activity the russians have been doing, that the u.s. >> has caught that they could be doing ten times it's more of it that hasn't been caught. he likens it to trying to catch drug smuggling across the southern border brian todd, cnn, washington ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy has just finished addressing a meeting of the ukraine defense contact group ramstein airbase. >> is made up about 50 countries that focus on kiis military needs to fend off russian attacks. the group was founded after russia's invasion by u.s. defense secretary lloyd austin, who is also there for the meeting. clare has been monitoring what's coming out of it. >> yeah. so this is the first time actually that president zelenskyy has in-person attended a meeting of the ramstein contact group at the u.s. airbase. he attended one in brussels last year, but i think that underscores even though this is the 24th meeting of this contact group that was set up to c

influential who have massive audiences and they were trying to manipulate that platform analysts, bret schaferays one of his biggest worry is going forward is that whatever election meddling activity the russians have been doing, that the u.s. >> has caught that they could be doing ten times more of it. that hasn't been caught. he likens it to trying to catch drug smuggling across the southern border. brian todd, cnn, washington all right brian thank you. >> hear more headlines this morning. ukraine and russia launched air attacks overnight, killing at least two people. the air attacks happened along the border regions early this morning four children are among the injured in both countries. >> ukraine's air force said it shot down a missile and more than a dozen attack drones launched from russia. we're getting video from from the aftermath of a typhoon and vietnam and made landfall yesterday. >> about 70 75, 75 miles east of hanoi killing at least 14 people, including four who died in a landslide. typhoon yagi. >> its force was equal to a category four hurricane with 130 mile per hour winds

influential who have massive audiences and they were trying to manipulate that platform analysts, bret schafer says, one of his biggest worry is going forward is that whatever election meddling activity the russians have been doing, that the u.s. >> has caught that they could be doing ten times more of it. that hasn't been caught. he likens it to trying to catch drug smuggling across the southern border. brian todd, cnn, washington alright, tuesday's presidential debate is also expected to have its fair share of misinformation and falsehoods as both contenders make their case to voters. my next guest believes the candidates should be fact-checked live during the debate. angie drug, nick hollen, is the international fact-checking network director for pointer angie great to see you. >> thanks so much for having me. it's great to be here. >> thank you. so it's believed that this will be very similar format. the candidates can either take the time to fact-check one another, but the moderators or not as compelled to do so. what are the dangers you see here? >> well, it is difficult to fact check a

influential, who have massive audiences and they were trying to manipulate that platform analysts, bret schaferays he's worried going forward. >> is that whatever election meddling activity the russians have been doing that the u.s. has caught that they could be doing ten times more of it that has not been caught he likens it to trying to catch drug smuggling across the southern border. wolf. all right. brian todd reporting, brian, thank you very much. and just ahead it a surprise move, president biden's son, please? he's guilty to all federal tax evasion charges. why a sentencing could have major implications kamala harris donald trump. the debate. everyone's been waiting for follows cnn for complete coverage and exclusive pre and post-debate analysis a cnn special event abc news presidential debate. tuesday at nine eastern on cnn and streaming on max you know what's brilliant, boring. think about it. boring young unsung catalyst for bowl what straps mold who are rocket and hurdles and into space. or boring makes vacations happened, early retirements possible, and startups, star because it's s