the education commissioner's name was bret schundler. he screwed up the race to the top application. chris christie said the number one rule of this administration is you don't lie to the governor. now bret schundler admitted that he and his teamed a screwed up the race to the top application, admitted he deserved to go, but did not like being called a liar. what happened a week later? bret schundler had documents, he had e-mails, he has records. he could prove that when chris christie called him a liar, he had not been a liar. chris christie and his administration had known bret schundler had talked to them. and i cannot help but think of them right now. because chris christie confidently got up there three years ago with all the cameras rolling and called him a liar, even though there was evidence out there that came back to haunt there. there is a precedent. >> now, you know wildstein a bit, and i heard your story you knee him indirectly because he ran your website. i'm watching this guy. i'm really try to empathize with people in tro