stuart: interest rates are down, that's a big deal take a look at the headline from bret stephens casest in the new york times, i'm going to read for you, the most courageous thing that joe biden can do, he says it all leaves the president one option that can be a win for america and ultimately his place in history he can still choose not to run to seed the field to a democrat who can win, there's only time if it's a courageous honorable and transformative legacy, kaylee mcghee white with us this morning, this is from the new york times is hard to ignore the times. >> this is part of a running pattern of tension between the new york times and the biden campaign which i find interesting we have to wonder whether bret stephens or anyone else at the times will make the criticisms of biden if he were doing better in the polls even stevens admits the only reason he's calling for biden to step down because he doesn't think biden can win in a large part of the reason why is because of the concerns about biden's mental capacity which is becoming a daily concern at this point. stuart: 65% say b

to your point, we want to ask about "new york times" op ed by bret stephen a. thomases, most courageous thing joe biden could do, he is talking about stepping aside. it leaves the president with one option, he could choose not to run and cede to someone who can win, paging chris whitcomb or greg shapiro. what do you think about that? >> tomi: joe biden loves himself, similar to gavin newsom, it will be difficult to get him to let go of the reigns there. speaking of gavin newsom, i believe gavin newsom will be the nominee. other names, i don't believe put in groundwork to get the nomination. gavin newsom has been running a shadow campaign for the last six to eight months. he's going to red states and putting out videos. and while i agree, joe biden will not be the nominee and they will convince him to step aside, i believe it will be gavin newsom. it is important to call gavin newsom out and look at the mess in california. if you don't want to california your america, gavin newsom is not your answer. joe biden is not the answer. >> carley: biden-harris before th

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so bret stephens at the. "new york times" wrote a piece this week that if biden wants to win, he needs to step aside. hyou had the atlantic, a liberl publication. call him ruth bader biden ando insinuating he needs to learn when to exit. whenexit james carville's bad comments about biden and his abilities. >>omments you know, so there ism clarion call from the liberal press and from some oneral the t that this shouldn't be the nominee. so teasing this out, how does this. he has a disastrous debate performance. there's just public pressure. he steps asideon wit. >> is he forced to side? how does that looks that? t's be i think it's between then and the convention, kayleigh, the reality is anything catw thn before the convention, they've said it in august. i believe the othebedr sidethey actually knows what they're doing. if they get another nominee too earl g nominy, that's enough tir vetting, enough time for the honeymoon phase to fade. but if they're swapping in another nominee in august, say, right around t