always get comments like this on turn without this live on the ship so i want to share it with you brett armstrong says no one cares when you break the laws in america you forfeit freedom what do you say to people like brant i would say several things first i would say you don't necessarily have to forfeit freedom if you have transgressed or broken the law but there's a larger issue and i'm glad that this person who tweeted said arts commented on youtube said that is that we have eight and terribly too punitive society we have made it if you look at what's happening in the recent immigration situation where children are being separated from parents in the united states the attitude is that if you have broken a law if you have sinned if you have transgressed then anything goes so you remember when we're talking about just losing freedom i think this person might be envisioning short sentences or things like that what i believe the other guest and i are talking about is the loss of life. mentioned people who are sentenced to death by incarceration also the risks in prison labor of dying are actually