to respond to that i get to not enjoy charles lane when i don't watch when he's on the panel on brett baer'show when you have policies that don't promote growth, the fed is the only game in town. you raise asset prices, you hope the economy gets a stimulus eventually from the -- from what you're trying to conjure up. eventually if you do growth policies, real growth policies or if there's a prospect of growth policies, i don't think it is the fed at that point. >> sure, but joe -- >> it's a team effort. you need both. >> we needed some emergency measures the rest i don't know. i agree one reason that income inequality worsened when we were trying to -- all we were doing was redistributing wealth. it didn't help the people it was designed to he, but also we had the worst growth of any eight-year period in history after a deep recession after you would expect a good snap back. that's what i blame on not just having growth policies you need the fed to supply the demand once the baton is passed we're in a different -- that's why rates are going up when we say there's a football game on sunday, w