well, i am joined now by lucy fisher —— joining our panellists lucy fisher and brett bruen

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panellists lucy fis so and brett bruen joining our panellists lucy fis so there �*ett bruen joiningnkly— israelis. so there are quite frankly credibility challenges what — frankly credibility challenges what they have to do which is essentiat— what they have to do which is essential at this hour is they start— essential at this hour is they start getting out of the passenger seat and start getting in the driver seat because how this ship comes into— because how this ship comes into parts, comes into safer waters _ into parts, comes into safer waters ultimately will depend not so — waters ultimately will depend not so much on benjamin netanyahu, but onjoe biden, european, regional leaders across— european, regional leaders across the middle east and i think— across the middle east and i think unfortunately some of my old colleagues from the 0bama administration seems stuck in the old — administration seems stuck in the old ways of doing diplomacy, and what we are seeing — diplomacy, and what we are seeing is _ diplomacy, and what we are seeing is that he is bracing me going — seeing

brett bruen, president of the consulting firm global situation room and former director of global engagement at the white house. good to have you still with us. i guessed earlier on the programme said that having north koreans in russia was primarily a message directed at the usa, would you agree? i the usa, would you agree? i think it is incredibly destabilising that you have introduced another party to this conflict. it has the potential of spreading the conflict out across asia. while there may be an attempt to send a message here to washington, i think it is as you have heard from the japanese foreign ministry in that clip, it is a message that is a resonating around the world and setting off alarm bells in a number of capitals. the potential that we could see some issue, some incident that happens in ukraine that could lead to some sort of nuclear or other incident across asia is really quite astonishing and i have to say for viewers less familiar with the intricacies of defence or diplomacy, one thing to send some armaments, it is an entirely different matter to put your own soldiers o

brett bruen, we are saying condemnation of iran from the us and from european allies of israel.ressure now on israel not to have a military response. do you think there's any chance of those allies succeeding? i think there still is a chance, and — think there still is a chance, and thrat's— think there still is a chance, and that's what makes the next several — and that's what makes the next several hours so important, that — several hours so important, that the _ several hours so important, that the message get through. i think— that the message get through. i think what you will hear from the white house and those private _ the white house and those private conversations with israeli _ private conversations with israeli officials is we did both— israeli officials is we did both in— israeli officials is we did both in our defensive operations as well as in some of these — operations as well as in some of these strong statements from president biden, vice president harris, — president biden, vice president harris, come to your aid. but it is_ harris, come to your aid. but it is

this conversation with cnn, chief national security correspondent alex marquardt, also with us brett bruen, a former us diplomat who was spent time in the middle east and served with the national security council and state department, alex, to bring you in first just how serious is this moment in terms of potential escalation? oh, it's enormous. check when you hear what brock ravid was saying, there there are about potential for israel to respond to this looming strike in a much more significant way than they did. a couple of months ago. >> it's clear that the u.s. is watching this very, very carefully. they were the ones who gave the israelis the warnings early today and i think that there's, there's another question is not just about what we're going to expect from moran now and how israel could respond after that, it's also about the defense of israel that's about to come remember, on april 13, when iran launched that attack, the u.s. put together gather this coalition of countries to defend israel that included britain, france, saudi arabia, and jordan is that coalition going to be in